(April 10, 2009 at 7:31 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's an altogether different level of responsibility though isn't it. I think it's in line with nature's responsibility for the weather.
The difference between nature's responsibility and God's responsibility is that unlike nature, God consciously and deliberately decided on how things should pan out. While nature and God are both ambiguous terms, we can at least say that God does things with intent whereas nature (by definition) is a natural series of events with no purpose nor goal. If God were able to plan in detail intricate enough to result in humans, he will have been well aware of volcanoes and hurricanes while writing out the blueprints. Perhaps this is the best God could do (not omnipotent) or perhaps he made such things possible as a sort of test.
Bottom line is that God must have been well aware of the side effects of his creation but still went along with it. Leaves us with a few conclusions:
1)God isn't omnipotent (couldn't do a better job if he wanted to)
2)God isn't omniscient (didn't realise the consequences of his plans[unlikely])
3)God purposefully created things which are bad for us
I'd go with 3. Options 1 and 2 would both limit God. Option 3 shows that God is capable of (and willing to create) evil as means to an end, further confirming his limitless and mysterious nature. A limitless God would require him to have the knowledge of and intent to do "bad" things.
fr0d0 Wrote:Yeah I like your version tooWhere does your love come from? I know the source of mine and it's pure love, an ideal. This helps. Love on it's own doesn't cut it.
God is other things yeah.
For me, this love is completely metaphorical. It doesn't mean anything, it isn't scientific, no doctor would prescribe it. Talking about such things is just a poetic illustration. I don't believe in an external force called love, but the brain is very powerful; visualising a one-ness with the universe and the radiant feeling of being revitalised with positive energy is moving and satisfying. I argue that the feelings do come from within- they are after all, products of brain function. Talking about it in a sexed-up way is just fun
