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thanks, god.
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RE: thanks, god.
(April 11, 2009 at 3:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I don't understand God's plan in the same way as you do. I think God added the ingredients and let them go. That initial bang had to have the ingredients that lead to our current reality. God is timeless so he can see the end, the beginning and any bit in between as he chooses. The universe is just what it is, and follows natural laws. God had no need no minutely engineer everything.

I think minute engineering is exactly what God needed to do. For this particular universe to exist, a certain number of physical constants had to be at an incredibly precise number and any deviation would lead to a completely different universe. God must indeed have put a lot of thought into the outcomes of his creation if it had to be that precise just to lead to us. All I'm saying is that if God planned a universe specifically to be suitable for human life to arise he will have known exactly what horrros he would be creating as a side-effect and he has made the decision to allow this. I still hold him accountable for intentionally creating a universe in which terrible things happen.

UNLESS God didn't create the universe with an intention of human beings arising. In that case he really did just let it run wild. However if he did intend on humans coming about, he will have known how exactly to tune the constants but would also be aware of what terror he would be creating as a result of the constants. I don't see how you can lift the responsibility from him.
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thanks, god. - by bozo - April 6, 2009 at 2:47 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Rockthatpiano06 - April 6, 2009 at 2:55 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by bozo - April 6, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 4:07 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 6, 2009 at 4:48 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by bozo - April 6, 2009 at 7:33 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 7, 2009 at 3:36 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 6:06 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 7:04 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 7:06 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 7:18 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 5:06 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 6, 2009 at 5:10 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2009 at 2:47 am
RE: thanks, god. - by lilphil1989 - April 7, 2009 at 8:21 am
RE: thanks, god. - by bozo - April 7, 2009 at 12:06 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Earthwarden - April 8, 2009 at 6:59 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 5:25 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 11, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by padraic - April 8, 2009 at 2:36 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 3:52 am
RE: thanks, god. - by leo-rcc - April 8, 2009 at 4:39 am
RE: thanks, god. - by athoughtfulman - April 8, 2009 at 10:29 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2009 at 2:55 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Tiberius - April 9, 2009 at 12:55 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2009 at 3:12 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 9, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2009 at 4:36 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 9, 2009 at 4:56 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 9, 2009 at 6:33 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2009 at 7:03 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 9, 2009 at 7:20 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 10, 2009 at 7:25 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Rockthatpiano06 - April 9, 2009 at 9:17 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2009 at 11:38 am
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 10, 2009 at 1:02 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Tiberius - April 10, 2009 at 3:03 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 10, 2009 at 3:27 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2009 at 3:54 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 10, 2009 at 4:34 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2009 at 6:20 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 10, 2009 at 6:44 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2009 at 7:31 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 11, 2009 at 8:31 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2009 at 3:49 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 11, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 11, 2009 at 6:21 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 11, 2009 at 7:15 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 6:55 am
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 12, 2009 at 8:53 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 7:39 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 7:58 am
RE: thanks, god. - by bozo - April 13, 2009 at 8:36 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 8:20 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 8:31 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 8:34 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 8:41 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 12, 2009 at 8:58 am
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 12, 2009 at 9:07 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 3:58 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 4:01 am
RE: thanks, god. - by bozo - April 14, 2009 at 11:15 am
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 13, 2009 at 9:11 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 4:02 am
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 14, 2009 at 9:56 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 14, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 14, 2009 at 4:52 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 15, 2009 at 8:51 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 15, 2009 at 1:01 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by LukeMC - April 15, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 14, 2009 at 1:15 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Edwardo Piet - April 14, 2009 at 8:53 am
RE: thanks, god. - by bozo - April 14, 2009 at 4:43 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by athoughtfulman - April 16, 2009 at 6:06 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Giff - April 16, 2009 at 7:33 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 16, 2009 at 8:11 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2009 at 11:15 am
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 16, 2009 at 11:54 am
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 16, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RE: thanks, god. - by Kyuuketsuki - April 16, 2009 at 3:18 pm

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