(August 29, 2016 at 2:38 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Well sure that's all well and good for the order of the wetlands, but terrible for the order of the suburbs. What perspective are we looking from again?(August 29, 2016 at 2:25 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Okay.
And of the flooding damage/disorder beaver damns cause?
... is soon brought to order again by -- you guessed it! -- life; which moves in and restructures the environment to better suit its own needs.
(August 29, 2016 at 2:25 am)Arkilogue Wrote: It sure does. And what ratio of earth is disordered for the amount of ordered metal atoms produced?
Let's take a look at gold: http://www.visualcapitalist.com/what-is-...ning-gold/
Top 50 grade producing mines move an average of 9.39 tons of earth for an amount of gold the size of a golf ball.
You'll have to show that the disorder has increased. Moving disorderly earth from one place to another doesn't demonstrate that. It's still a jumble of multivariate molecules ... only with the gold molecules separated out. In other words, it is a little more organized, chemically, and about the same, physically ... especially once gravity and erosion collaborate for a few years.
(August 29, 2016 at 2:25 am)Arkilogue Wrote: How so? Lets just take one organism out of the biodiversity pool...how about all bee's? I wonder what disorder that might cause the biosphere let alone human civilization?
Hypotheticals do not an argument make. Try again.
And the fuel, machinery, chemicals and industry required to process that earth? Great order for man (something to do, green cloth paper to collect and shiny things to play with), terrible for the ecosystem. What perspective are we looking from again?
It's not a hypothetical, mass bee die off is happening right now. So is major food chain and ecosystem collapse in the oceans.
We make the order of plastic; one time use bottles and bags that stick around for hundreds of years, photodegrading into smaller and smaller pieces, killing at nearly all levels of the food chain.
Maybe it's more than order/disorder. Maybe it's a straight up sin against the harmony and symphony of Life an ultimately against ourselves. There is no other earth.
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