(August 29, 2016 at 2:51 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Well sure that's all well and good for the order of the wetlands, but terrible for the order of the suburbs. What perspective are we looking from again?
I've already answered that question. Please read for communication's sake, rather than mere argumentation.
(August 29, 2016 at 2:51 am)Arkilogue Wrote: And the fuel, machinery, chemicals and industry required to process that earth? Great order for man (something to do, green cloth paper to collect and shiny things to play with), terrible for the ecosystem. What perspective are we looking from again?
See above.
(August 29, 2016 at 2:51 am)Arkilogue Wrote: It's not a hypothetical, mass bee die off is happening right now. So is major food chain and ecosystem collapse in the oceans.
And you'll show how this is an increase in entropy soon, right?
(August 29, 2016 at 2:51 am)Arkilogue Wrote: We make the order of plastic; one time use bottles and bags that stick around for hundreds of years, photodegrading into smaller and smaller pieces, killing at nearly all levels of the food chain.
I never said that everything life does increases order. Strawman much?
(August 29, 2016 at 2:51 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Maybe it's more than order/disorder. Maybe it's a straight up sin against the harmony and symphony of Life an ultimately against ourselves. There is no other earth.
I agree that we do much harm to our environment. We also do much to increase its habitability, now that we are beginning to understand the effects of our actions and inactions.
But you seem to be equivocating harm to the environment with regard to human habitability with entropy ... even as you keep asking about perspective. I get the impression that while you know how you feel about environmental degradation, you don't know that much about entropy.
Feel free to show that you do. But stick to entropy, because that is what we're trying to discuss here.