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Why is life programmed to survive?
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RE: Why is life programmed to survive?
(August 29, 2016 at 2:45 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 2:34 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Then why/how do some people loose it? I must not be hard wired...more like a suggestion.

Perhaps the will to live is like the speed limit; some people go faster, some people go slower, and some people don't take care of their car and it craps out on them in the middle of the journey. Dunno

Evolution doesn't operate on the individual level, but on the species level. One of the first things anyone who's studied it learns.
If it is incremental over time in a species as it changes to another, then it's entirely dependent on and only conveyed through the very slight changes within each individual. You cannot separate them. Evolution can only operate through individuals.

How can the "will to survive" be only present at the species level and not the individual?

(August 29, 2016 at 2:50 am)RozKek Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 2:34 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Then why/how do some people loose it? I must not be hard wired...more like a suggestion.

Perhaps the will to live is like the speed limit; some people go faster, some people go slower, and some people don't take care of their car and it craps out on them in the middle of the journey. Dunno

Not completely certain. The human brain isn't perfect, it's subject to fault. It can be the brain structure, diet, worrying, chemical imbalances, and some of em' are genetical, but I've heard from many that it runs through their family, indicating it's genetical. I have a friend, his now ex girlfriend is severely depressed and nothing worked on her, no diet, no medicine, no therapy, nothing. IIRC it is just the way her brain works.

E.g it can be a genetic mutation (happens all the time) that reduces your seratonin production, some are more prone while some are more resiliant. What we know for sure is all your emotions including your will to live as opposed to let's say suicidal thoughts are all chemicals in the brain, if somethings goes wrong, well.
Certainly there's a sea of influences/causes...

I wonder how much of that is also due to the adversarial nature of our current civilization??

I also wonder how many chemical cascades in the body are self created by thought alone or caused by patterns of photons hitting the retina?

(August 29, 2016 at 2:56 am)RozKek Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 2:34 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Then why/how do some people loose it? I must not be hard wired...more like a suggestion.

Perhaps the will to live is like the speed limit; some people go faster, some people go slower, and some people don't take care of their car and it craps out on them in the middle of the journey. Dunno

Some unfortunate people's cars don't work properly and are hard to repair* Everything about you isn't under your control whether you like it or not.

I'm under no such delusion, see my signature.

You should have seen what happened when I suggested depression and suicidal thoughts might be caused by pathogens known to colonize the brain like Candida and cause suicidal behavior, like Toxoplasma Gondii in rats and cordycep mushrooms in insects.

It was a shit show.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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Why is life programmed to survive? - by Macoleco - August 28, 2016 at 9:17 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Chad32 - August 28, 2016 at 9:24 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Macoleco - August 28, 2016 at 9:30 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 28, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by quip - August 29, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Alex K - August 28, 2016 at 9:31 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by PETE_ROSE - August 28, 2016 at 9:36 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 28, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 28, 2016 at 11:02 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 11:24 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 28, 2016 at 11:39 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 11:56 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 1:26 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:10 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 2:57 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 3:49 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 8:14 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 2:19 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:30 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 2:43 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 3:00 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 3:04 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 10:24 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 28, 2016 at 10:25 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 10:27 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Jackalope - August 28, 2016 at 10:27 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 10:29 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Jackalope - August 28, 2016 at 10:38 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 10:30 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 28, 2016 at 10:34 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 28, 2016 at 11:27 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 11:37 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 2:14 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:25 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 2:38 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 3:02 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ScienceAf - August 28, 2016 at 10:51 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 2:05 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 28, 2016 at 11:29 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ScienceAf - August 29, 2016 at 12:58 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by ignoramus - August 28, 2016 at 10:44 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 28, 2016 at 10:44 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2016 at 11:02 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by CapnAwesome - August 28, 2016 at 11:04 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2016 at 11:38 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 28, 2016 at 11:48 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by The Grand Nudger - August 28, 2016 at 11:55 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by deleteduser12345 - August 29, 2016 at 1:55 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Jenny A - August 29, 2016 at 1:55 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Macoleco - August 29, 2016 at 2:04 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 2:23 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by deleteduser12345 - August 29, 2016 at 2:32 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Macoleco - August 29, 2016 at 2:07 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by deleteduser12345 - August 29, 2016 at 2:28 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:34 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 2:45 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 3:06 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by deleteduser12345 - August 29, 2016 at 2:50 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by deleteduser12345 - August 29, 2016 at 2:56 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Jenny A - August 29, 2016 at 3:31 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by downbeatplumb - August 29, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Yoo - August 29, 2016 at 6:51 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by LastPoet - August 29, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by The Grand Nudger - August 29, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by purplepurpose - August 29, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 1:13 pm
Why is life programmed to survive? - by LadyForCamus - August 29, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Edwardo Piet - August 29, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Whateverist - August 29, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 5:00 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 8:05 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 8:11 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 8:09 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 5:41 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 6:10 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Arkilogue - August 29, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Why is life programmed to survive? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 29, 2016 at 8:20 pm

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