RE: Why is life programmed to survive?
August 29, 2016 at 3:49 am
(This post was last modified: August 29, 2016 at 4:18 am by Arkilogue.)
(August 29, 2016 at 2:57 am)Whateverist Wrote:(August 29, 2016 at 2:10 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Does order and design require intention?
Well you sure do seem to want to say something in that direction. If you mean "design" in the sense of just the way a thing happens to be structured without suggesting "according to a plan" then perhaps we have no argument.
According to wiki:
Quote:Design is the creation of a plan or convention for the construction of an object, system or measurable human interaction (as in architectural blueprints, engineering drawings, business processes, circuit diagrams, and sewing patterns).[1] Design has different connotations in different fields (see design disciplines below). In some cases, the direct construction of an object (as in pottery, engineering, management, coding, and graphic design) is also considered to be design.
Designing often necessitates considering the aesthetic, functional, economic, and sociopolitical dimensions of both the design object and design process. It may involve considerable research, thought, modeling, interactive adjustment, and re-design. Meanwhile, diverse kinds of objects may be designed, including clothing, graphical user interfaces, skyscrapers, corporate identities, business processes, and even methods of designing.[2]
Thus "design" may be a substantive referring to a categorical abstraction of a created thing or things (the design of something), or a verb for the process of creation, as is made clear by grammatical context.
Can you see why I would interpret your use of "design" as signifying creation according to a plan?
(August 29, 2016 at 2:10 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Does a human father or mother design the fetus? No, the design of the fetus is inherent in the DNA re-combination of the parents. No "intelligent design" required. I have found the same in the relationship of the universe to God. The order/design is inherent in the Origin, it is geometric and self limiting. Even science speaks of the current individuation of forces and things as in inherent and "unfolded/unfurled" from the singularity of space/time/matter/forces before inflation.
(Where I've bolded) why not just say the "structure of the fetus" if you have no attachment to "design" as the carrying out of a plan or intention? For that matter if you are a deist who thinks the universe is something that God cannot help but produce, then the use of "design" is problematic. When I defecate I create something but I do not design it. It has a structure, one devoid of any intention of mine. Likewise, if the universe were truly God's creation but unreflective of any intention on His part - why not simply refer to its structure?
(August 29, 2016 at 2:10 am)Arkilogue Wrote: From what I have found in macro universal structure (several nested structures), life is inevitable and the total vibration of these structures on the fabric of space-time directly pattern for DNA. Geometrically.
Even without being privy to 'macro universal structure' (are you?), I too have often thought that life is a kind of complex chemical reaction which is inevitable under the right conditions. (I have no idea why you've written the part I've struck out. What are you trying to say?)
Great delineations between "design" and "structure", thank you!
So glad you asked and are interested! This is what I am referring to...@ 4:02. (I can share with you my confidence (deterministic, predictive metaversal model) and evidence of macro universal structure later.)
Russian scientists aboard the ISS took a plasma crystal cloud (inert dust suspended in an ionized gas, subject to magnetic fields) and all they did was rapidly cool it. It condensed into a double helix with rungs. Now imagine what is happening in charged nebular clouds, filled with organic molecules, cooling and rotating in space. That's where I think the first "life" formed, and it's life soup out there.
Found a few articles about circumpolarized starlight shining on a contracting clouds of "dust and gas" being responsible for the left-handed chirality of life we find on earth.
http://phys.org/news/2016-06-life-handsh...ellar.html
http://phys.org/news/2014-11-spiraling-n...-life.html
What about the cells that make up the protective dead layer of our skin?
And even more interesting...what about the 20% of cells that self sacrifice in slime mold stalks so that the others can launch out of the spore head?
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
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I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder