(August 29, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Sunflowers turn their heads to face the sun all day each day. Would a depressed sun flower figure "why bother" and take a day off? Do you think the action of a sunflower plant to align the face of its flowers with the sun is evidence of intention in plants? What need have plants of subjective states? What organs do they have to produce them? Actions don't bespeak either intention or subjective states, no more than complexity of structure is evidence of design.Thoughts are a higher order process than emotions.
Their subjective state would be the EM coherence of all there parts working together. Without thought in the way, i'd imagine their default state is ecstasy. And it need be no more a willed state than the feelings we get from a beautiful sunrise. We didn't decide to be happy.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
