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Let's talk about drugs
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RE: Let's talk about drugs
(September 3, 2016 at 11:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 3, 2016 at 8:16 am)paulpablo Wrote: If you're going to do that why not just have people pay for the drugs rather than forcing people who don't want to use drugs to pay also pay for them along with the drug users?

Because a significant part of the societal problems associated with drug use is what people have to do to get the money to pay for the drugs in the first place.  If governments were to subsidize (at 100%) drug use and rehab, you wouldn't have pensioners being beaten senseless by people who need a fix.

People who don't and never will use hard drugs are already paying for the cost of drug use, in terms of ludicrously high costs of catching, prosecuting, and (in many cases) jailing and warehousing drug users, not to mention investigating and prosecuting associated crimes. Since under the Boru Plan you wouldn't have to do all that, the drug-related cost to taxpayers would drop like a paralyzed falcon.

Boru

I agree to everything about that plan with just some exceptions.

If I'm reading it correctly you're saying legalize and subsidize all drugs and the rehab for the drugs.

I already mentioned my perspective on legalization, I think it might be morally questionable, maybe not, and I do predict it would be the best route to take.  So I'm for the legalization.

The rehab, also makes sense.

The subsidizing all drugs and having a designated place to take them is where I think the plan fails in certain aspects.

I can see it working with heroin, as far as I understand it, heroin isn't a party/recreational, social drug. This along with other painkillers and opiates is psychologically and physically addictive, I have sympathy for vulnerable people who are addicted to those kind of drugs and I'm sure some of them will be happy being in a government subsidized room with their heroin.

But I disagree with the subsidizing of more recreational drugs for 2 reasons. 
1) I don't want to pay for a bunch of teenagers to have a good weekend and I imagine many taxpayers feel the same way.
2) I can't imagine any recreational drug takers agreeing to be stuck in a government funded room while they take their drugs.  As someone who was an ecstasy user I can say that would have been my idea of a nightmare to be stuck in a room while I've got all that energy where I just want to get up and dance, I imagine if that person is taking meth or crack that energy is even more intense although I've never taken either of those so I can't say for certain how it effects behavior, I just can't imagine they want to be stuck in a room.
Unless it's basically a government funded nightclub you're talking about which brings me back to point 1, I don't want to pay for someone's amazing weekend out of my pocket.


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Let's talk about drugs - by Aegon - August 30, 2016 at 9:51 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Cato - August 30, 2016 at 9:59 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Joods - August 30, 2016 at 10:20 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Aegon - August 30, 2016 at 11:25 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Banjo - September 4, 2016 at 7:10 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Banjo - September 4, 2016 at 7:24 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2016 at 7:25 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2016 at 7:30 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Banjo - September 4, 2016 at 7:45 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2016 at 7:49 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Banjo - September 4, 2016 at 7:52 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Jesster - August 30, 2016 at 10:00 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by chimp3 - August 30, 2016 at 10:08 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by The Grand Nudger - August 30, 2016 at 10:06 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2016 at 10:44 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Chad32 - August 30, 2016 at 10:08 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Jackalope - August 30, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Jesster - August 30, 2016 at 10:14 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Jackalope - August 30, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Jesster - August 30, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Jackalope - August 30, 2016 at 10:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by account_inactive - August 30, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Minimalist - August 30, 2016 at 11:13 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by PETE_ROSE - August 30, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Joods - August 30, 2016 at 11:02 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by PETE_ROSE - August 30, 2016 at 10:41 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Sterben - August 30, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Thumpalumpacus - August 30, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Excited Penguin - August 30, 2016 at 11:04 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Losty - August 30, 2016 at 11:06 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2016 at 12:21 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Excited Penguin - August 30, 2016 at 11:08 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Losty - August 30, 2016 at 11:26 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by paulpablo - August 30, 2016 at 11:57 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by The Valkyrie - August 31, 2016 at 12:11 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by account_inactive - August 31, 2016 at 12:15 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Excited Penguin - August 31, 2016 at 12:30 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by The Valkyrie - August 31, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2016 at 5:05 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Excited Penguin - August 31, 2016 at 6:47 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2016 at 12:40 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Gemini - August 31, 2016 at 2:13 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2016 at 5:07 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by deleteduser12345 - August 31, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Losty - August 31, 2016 at 4:49 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2016 at 6:52 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Thumpalumpacus - August 31, 2016 at 11:01 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by bennyboy - August 31, 2016 at 8:54 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by LastPoet - August 31, 2016 at 9:14 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Divinity - August 31, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Little lunch - August 31, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Losty - August 31, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by J a c k - August 31, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by The Valkyrie - August 31, 2016 at 11:38 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Little lunch - September 1, 2016 at 2:35 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Excited Penguin - September 2, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Losty - September 1, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Joods - September 1, 2016 at 6:26 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Little lunch - September 1, 2016 at 7:12 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Aegon - September 2, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Joods - September 1, 2016 at 8:03 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Little lunch - September 2, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Jesster - September 2, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Little lunch - September 2, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by J a c k - September 3, 2016 at 2:54 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by paulpablo - September 3, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by paulpablo - September 3, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by paulpablo - September 4, 2016 at 1:14 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by account_inactive - September 3, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Homeless Nutter - September 3, 2016 at 10:25 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Faith No More - September 3, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Little lunch - September 3, 2016 at 6:56 pm
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Excited Penguin - September 4, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by account_inactive - September 4, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2016 at 6:22 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Silver - September 4, 2016 at 1:23 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by paulpablo - September 4, 2016 at 6:26 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Banjo - September 4, 2016 at 7:27 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by abaris - September 4, 2016 at 7:31 am
RE: Let's talk about drugs - by Regina - September 4, 2016 at 7:53 am

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