Peace...
You missed the point the first time around...and you know you did...what you are doing now is hiding under a false cloud of smugness hoping to mitigate damage.
You did not summarize, you reduced...There is a difference. You are also misappropriately citing Red herring here. Unless you mean to say that I diverted attention to another topic. Which I did not...
My language was clear, your error was apparent...Instead of simply admitting to this you feign contempt...Nice.
There was no need for an alternative since you supposedly understood it the way I presented it...
As it relates to cultural norms...Yes, people consider such things as being relative...However, I contend that there is behaviour which is wrong irrespective of cultural acceptance. Now before you start arguing that morality itself is relative, you should consult with the other atheists to see if you will get in trouble.
I don't care how subjective excess is respective to culture. Evil is evil, wittingly or unwittingly.
This is naive at best...Atheists aren't in power..They are dependent subjects. Everyone else is not waiting on Atheist to teach, they are mourning atheists. It is funny that even while everyone was religiously inclined science proceeded unabated in full bloom. You make really funny points like "The only way I see progress happening.." ..The progress hasn't stopped so what do you mean "happening"???
Whirling Moat
Quote:I got your point.. I did not respect it..
You missed the point the first time around...and you know you did...what you are doing now is hiding under a false cloud of smugness hoping to mitigate damage.
Quote:I summarize because I have a disdain for the religious habit of utilizing red herrings within flowery or vague language in order to avoid dealing with a subject directly..
You did not summarize, you reduced...There is a difference. You are also misappropriately citing Red herring here. Unless you mean to say that I diverted attention to another topic. Which I did not...
My language was clear, your error was apparent...Instead of simply admitting to this you feign contempt...Nice.
Quote:A possible alternative would be to just say The root of all evil is our ability to make choices.. we choose to behave in what is culturally deemed as excess or not.. you were the one looking for the source to destroy it.. It is choice..
There was no need for an alternative since you supposedly understood it the way I presented it...
As it relates to cultural norms...Yes, people consider such things as being relative...However, I contend that there is behaviour which is wrong irrespective of cultural acceptance. Now before you start arguing that morality itself is relative, you should consult with the other atheists to see if you will get in trouble.
Quote: I'm also sure you are aware that what is considered excess is culturally subjective.. (Just a note - I'm also sure you're aware that so far the "God's" way of theophanies in remote desert tribes transmitted through ambiguous confusing language-barring text hasn't worked to elevate folx beyond whatever their culture deemed as excess.. )
I don't care how subjective excess is respective to culture. Evil is evil, wittingly or unwittingly.
Quote:This is also, I feel, an example of the point of the thread.. Why we have to go through all of this with the religious mind to progress.. It can be distracting.. The only way I see progress happening is if enough people are willing to teach those who wish to be taught.. and can open their minds beyond the dogma they tow or the defensive habit they seem to be looped in..
This is naive at best...Atheists aren't in power..They are dependent subjects. Everyone else is not waiting on Atheist to teach, they are mourning atheists. It is funny that even while everyone was religiously inclined science proceeded unabated in full bloom. You make really funny points like "The only way I see progress happening.." ..The progress hasn't stopped so what do you mean "happening"???
Whirling Moat
