(September 17, 2016 at 5:47 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:(September 16, 2016 at 9:04 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'll weigh in here and agree with the OP that there's no evidence for material or anything like it. In fact, given double-slit experiments (quantum eraser) I'd say even a physical monism is on shaky ground, especially when idealism subsumes materialism and physicalism anyway. "Reality" is almost for sure unknowable; what we DO know is only what we experience, and relationships between the things we experience.
I propose we remove the unknown/unknowable from science altogether, and treat it for what it is-- a system of categorization and interaction with EXPERIENCES, with no need to cling to instinctive but unfounded assumptions about the nature of reality.
I refute it thus!
If you don't get that reference, sit on a chair the tactile experience is proof of a material existence.
But it's not...
#1: You do not feel the chair, your internal nerves feel the deformation of your body and indentation of skin.
#2: Your skin never touches the material of the chair, the electrons shells in the atoms of the two objects magnetically repel each other*.
http://futurism.com/why-you-can-never-ac...-anything/
“You will see that the purely electro-static repulsion between electrons is not the only reason why you hover above your chair. In the normal case, it’s about as strong as the Pauli Exclusion Principle when it comes to pushing things apart. It’s actually a combination of these two effects dominating the actual behavior. By that, I am speaking of the unbelievable idea that electrons know where every other electron is, and they try to avoid each other as much as possible, resulting in an exponential decrease in the force between electrons, even without the electromagnetic repulsion in play.”
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder