(September 17, 2016 at 6:49 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(September 17, 2016 at 6:43 pm)Bunburryist Wrote: We NEVER experience the same thing as other people. No one experiences the red I experience. (I'll put on my materialist hat now and say that, since everything I experience happens in MY material brain, and since everything they experience happens in THEIR material brains, we can't possibly, EVER experience the same thing. I really wonder if materialists, on the whole, really understand their own "theory of the senses," carry it to its logical conclusion, and, most importantly, INCORPORATE IT INTO THEIR THINKING.) No one ever experiences anything anyone else experiences. I don't even know that the "space" in my experiences is something other "people" experience anything "in."
Rubbish!
How many people experience a falling from a building at terminal velocity and hitting the ground, differently?
Fact is, there are some things about material reality that are the same for everyone.
None of them actually hit the ground. They are stopped by the power of electromagnetic repulsion between atoms and the sudden deceleration causes all injury. ;P
I do think red is generally the same experience for everyone, barring actual physical defects in the structure of the eyes or brain. But think of the different experiences of a roller coaster rider: One is elated and the body produces de-stressing hormones....another is terrified and the body produces stress hormones. The objective experience, what is actually going on in the external world is identical.
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder