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Why materialists are predominantly materialists
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists
(September 18, 2016 at 4:30 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(September 18, 2016 at 12:12 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're full of shit.  Consciousness, isn't.   You claim that consciousness is.  That's a claim that requires more support than a stupid semantic argument or saying that it's self-evident.  You've never been shy that you believe in Idealism.  What is that Idealism world composed of if consciousness isn't a real thing?  And here you are trying to deny the ontology your well-known Idealism requires.  If consciousness isn't what it appears to be, then your "world of ideas" is an empty non-space.  You're simply being dishonest in pretending agnosticism here.
First of all, I don't "believe in" idealism.  I'm agnostic about the nature of reality, but I consider a kind of experiential idealism a better default position than a material monism.  This is because there's a 100% chance that all knowledge is known only by a subjective agent, and an unknown chance that all subjective agency is dependent on a material substrate.  100% > not sure, any day of the week.

More word games. Your odds don't make any sense. Both "all knowledge is known only by a subjective agent" and "subjective agency is dependent on a material substrate" may both be true at the same time. And "all knowledge is known only by a subjective agent" doesn't lead to Idealism. You're just spinning BS to CYA. The chance that "all knowledge is known only by a subjective agent" implies an Idealism is also unknown.
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Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Bunburryist - September 15, 2016 at 11:31 pm
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Jesster - September 15, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by brewer - September 16, 2016 at 7:19 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Silver - September 17, 2016 at 12:57 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Chas - September 22, 2016 at 10:32 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Chas - September 22, 2016 at 10:56 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Angrboda - September 18, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Jesster - September 16, 2016 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Jesster - September 16, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Silver - September 17, 2016 at 12:26 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Joods - September 17, 2016 at 8:47 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Joods - September 17, 2016 at 10:44 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by emjay - September 17, 2016 at 5:40 pm
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by emjay - September 17, 2016 at 6:51 pm
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by emjay - September 17, 2016 at 7:24 pm
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Joods - September 18, 2016 at 12:01 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by Silver - September 24, 2016 at 12:46 am
RE: Why materialists are predominantly materialists - by comet - September 28, 2016 at 8:08 pm

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