RE: thanks, god.
April 14, 2009 at 3:58 am
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2009 at 4:00 am by fr0d0.)
(April 12, 2009 at 9:07 am)LukeMC Wrote: but but but... no!
The universe is beautiful (my interpretation anyway) and bad things do happen. I'd be happy to say God is great for making the universe beautiful, but I'd also be very angry at him for purposefully taking away so many innocent lives in such cruel ways! Come on fr0d0, you know you want to agree with me hereGod is clearly not all good. He's responsible for some sheer carnage and he justifies it through beauty and fullness. No human being can get away with artistic murder- it isn't justified. Either God is indifferent to morals or God consider some evils to be justified.
I think we absolutely agree LukeMC. Your first line is perfect. The rest I think you seek to attribute too much to God. I don't think it can apply.
What you're really saying is: "The universe is beautiful (my interpretation anyway) and bad things do happen ...and I'm sad as a human at the sad stuff". I think that's all you can rationally say. God is nothing to do with it. You just don't define God accurately enough.
(April 13, 2009 at 8:36 am)bozo Wrote:(April 12, 2009 at 7:39 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Do you think this person really meant "thankyou God for killing everybody"? IMO all she was trying to say was that she was glad to be alive. Being 'thankful'; 'grateful' etc is what people say to express that. It's pretty meaningless.
Frodo, I disagree. Unfortunately for us atheists, lots of stuff from religion has become everyday speech. Saying " thank god " for all sorts of minor things is such an example. The case of surviving a natural disaster is something quite different, yet a recurring thing is for survivors to " give thanks to god " for saving them.
So I think this woman was doing just that, not being grateful but actually thanking the fiend that let her live but condemned the others to death.
That's why we're not that fond of god.
If you follow my reasoning tho' bozo, you see that what you're defining as God isn't accurate. You seem to want a scape goat, not reason.