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Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks
RE: Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks


So you are admitting you are not neutral on the matter? Well then you should not criticize the creation guys for not being neutral on the matter either.


Sure he established this convention. Nobody is arguing that. What I am pointing out is that it is just that, a convention set by man. As I demonstrated even Einstein agreed with this. It is not a requirement of nature at all. I don’t understand why you guys all act like you know more about the theory than Einstein himself.



Read exactly how these experiments are conducted and you’ll understand what I meant by that. They hardly replicate natural conditions.


Huh? When I say “naturally”, I mean taking place in nature apart from any intelligent interference. So men helping amino acids line up in the laboratory is not proof it can happen naturally at all. Just like if I line rocks up to say “Hello” it does not prove they can do this naturally in a river bed somewhere.


Even if it were true? Obviously you have not read the procedures section of Fox’s work, it is true. You can’t create life by destroying the very amino acids you need to create it. I am sorry. You can’t bake a cake with only a few of the necessary ingredients; they all need to be used.


Not what I said. I said they are rare in nature (true), and the ones in Fox’s experiment led to branching that is not found in biological life (also true). I never said no trt-functional amino acids are found in life, I said the branching was not.


I hope you realize you don’t need random polymers to create life, you need very specific ones. Secondly, sure heat has been observed to exceed that in the experiments but not the very controlled application of extreme heat followed by extreme cooling. The conditions used in the laboratory have never been found on earth. They were very controlled and calculated; it is what we call unjustified intelligent interference.


I am sure you are aware that life requires mono-chiral amino acids. So forming peptides out of a 50/50 chiral mixture of amino acids proves nothing. He is building with the wrong blocks.


You seriously think that deep sea vents replicate the very controlled, calculated, and timed out heating and cooling patterns used in this experiment? I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.


Actually I would support him using impure amino acids because they are actually found in nature and they would not have formed peptides in the laboratory. Rather, he is using things that we don’t’ find in nature to form bonds, and then trying to say it could happen in nature. It’s silly and proves nothing.


Dodged the question, nice.


So you are agreeing with me? I think.


How is that a “pro-slavery” position?
1. Slavery in Bible times was not the same as 18-19th century American slavery. It was more a path many desolate people took in order to have food and shelter (slaves were set free after a certain time period).
2. The point of the verse is to illustrate man’s relationship to the Lord and that both servant and master can be part of God’s chosen people (a very radical idea in those times).
So I think you are going to have to dig deeper if you want that verse that says, “I am the Lord and I think slavery is awesome!”
Why do you think slavery is wrong given your atheistic worldview? Be specific please.
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Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks - by Minimalist - April 13, 2011 at 1:59 pm
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RE: Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks - by Minimalist - April 13, 2011 at 4:38 pm
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