(September 28, 2016 at 8:08 pm)comet Wrote: The standard model is all we have. Anything that doesn't tie back into that has "unknown" for its start. Yeah, philosophers get to make shit up but in the end its just made up shit. just one pile of bullshit thrown at pile of horse shit.
I would like to say a few things about that. First of all, what's the "standard model?" It seems to me this is one of the things we all think we "know," but I'm curious if you can describe it in any detail or with any accuracy.
Second, whatever the standard model is, not only is it not "all we have," it's not even the first thing we have. All systems of thought, world views, etc. start with experience. THAT is all we have for sure-- the rest is a system of inferences and philosophical assumptions.
Third, you accuse non-standard models of having "unknown" for their start. Ru-heally? Are you claiming that you have access to a world view which is not founded on mystery? You'd better enlighten us right now, because I'm not aware that such a world view exists.