(September 28, 2016 at 8:08 pm)comet Wrote: The standard model is all we have. Anything that doesn't tie back into that has "unknown" for its start. Yeah, philosophers get to make shit up but in the end its just made up shit. just one pile of bullshit thrown at pile of horse shit.Well, not really. There's this major aspect involved in any view of the world called linguistics, and it goes hand-in-hand with another branch of study called logic. Together, these allow us to make sense of the phenomena we observe in the world, and together with other areas of study one forms a system which guides their thinking. Philosophy, in a broad sense, encompasses all of it, but in particular areas it has made great progress in the past few hundred years, especially in the development of a methodology known as science. Just because you don't appreciate what philosophers do doesn't mean their work is just "made up shit," though, it might say a thing or two about your understanding of philosophy.
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