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A Loving God
RE: A Loving God
(September 29, 2016 at 1:51 pm)robvalue Wrote: There's so many problems with "religious morality" it's hard to know where to start.

What it really comes down to, in reality, is "I'll do what god says as long as I was going to do it anyway". Or more precisely, you'll do what god says because it's you, talking to yourself. God always agrees with you. Funny that, isn't it?

The other problem is that atheists seem to figure out morality just fine without needing any access to god. So what use is he?

Where are all the atheists that figured out morality just fine? How do they know if their morality is correct or not? You don't know if your morality is superior to anyone else's or not. You've looked at life situations and decided what you think is right and wrong based on specific criteria. You really don't know if you've figured out morality right or not.
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