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A Loving God
RE: A Loving God
(September 29, 2016 at 2:16 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 28, 2016 at 8:14 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: You do know that water is matter, correct? Or are you that scientifically illiterate that you don't understand basic terms taught to five year olds?

You do know that the actual stuff of the atoms of water take up 0.00000000001% of the space of the atom?
Atoms are barely material at all, they're scarcely the faint whiff of a homeopathic ghost fart..

What I am talking about is matter taking up all available space, pure absolute matter. No void space, no atomic space, no space not filled up with matter. 100% mass.

Yes, you ignorant, unlettered baboon, I understand that at subatomic levels all matter is mostly empty space. It no more means that water isn't matter any more than the rock Samuel Johnson kicked isn't matter. Atoms are matter no matter how muck your science denying relugious views want you to think otherwise.

So what you're saying is that god is a neutron star, the densest form of matter there is? Look Arkilogue, sto talking about science, you haven't the first clue about even the most basic stuff that they teach in primary schools, and it is clear you don't give one fuck about learning any science. All you see is that you can twist basic ideas into a tortured form which represents your own personal form of christianity, abandoning all ideas of evidence, objectivity or even sense. The problem for you is that the more you talk the more an idiot you show yourself to be.

By your own words you have dismissed everything considered material as non-material simply because you don't understand the difference between micro and macro.
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