RE: Reductio ad Absurdum: How to most efficently communicate with theists
October 3, 2016 at 1:10 pm
(This post was last modified: October 3, 2016 at 1:27 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 3, 2016 at 8:36 am)_Velvet_ Wrote: I don't think there are ANY lost souls, they are just lost in a sea of stupidity, they are people (otherwise) just like you and me who are able to think objectively on most subjects (aside from their delusion), if we had born a while back we would think that the earth its flat (yes I'm aware some people still think that, lol)Just a simple difference of opinion. I guess I should be mor e precise, they are - to me- lost souls. I have no ability to dissuade them, and no confidence that I will ever possess it.
Quote:Our enemy its the stupidity, the ignorance, not the people... and our weapon its education, we can try to teach people out of misery.I know -alot- of highly educated...abjectly ignorant, people. Religious indoctrination -is- an education.
Quote:You gotta understand that the religion idea its designed to be very appealing, they are ignorant and their familiy told about religion very early in childhood, its NOT only their fault that they are stuck in there and hating you as enemy of their lord.It is. No one else is at fault or to blame for anyone else's misapprehensions, particularly so in some imagined war against the fairy kingdom.
Quote:It can even be argued that we are to blame, because we sometimes act like I said you guys do (everyone does it sometimes), we have the knowledge to unveil their delusion, but we either don't care enough for our drowning fellow (like you), or are still YET too incompetent or powerless to teach them efficiently how to surpass their delusions (the skepticals in general, tho Dawkins/Harris/Dennet are trying really really hard)I know, I know, it's everyone else's fault, particularly atheists......those poor, suffering believers. Like I said, we have a difference of opinion...lol.
I paint landscapes -without- a god in them. That's all I do, all I can do. That's my total contribution, the grand sum of any effort I spend. Whether or not a person chooses to place themself in that landscape or villify me (or blame me.......for something...) for the very act of painting it is their own, damned, business. To illustrate, succinctly, what I mean. It doesn't matter to me whether or not someone was indoctrinated into the cult of vicarious redemption through blood sacrifice. I don't place the responsibility, for that, on them. -No one does- Many people are...but ultimately, each one of them decides whether or not they -agree- with it. There, that, is their responsibility and no one else's. Educating them wont change that agreement. If it did, it would have. They've been educated. Whether or not it even happened...irrelevant, they agree with the principle. Whether or not I disagree or can mount an argument against it..irrelevant, they already -have- their arguments, they do not feel compelled by my own. This shit is -all- on them...there is no captain save-a-ho "we have to do this and that for these poor people" - to me.
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