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This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail
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RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail
(October 5, 2016 at 10:20 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: How does having a 'good for the economy' alternative to Republicans benefit the Koch brothers?
Min gave ample examples, I gave an elaboration of a specific example.

Quote:It potentially takes votes away from the Republicans they're backing. It's the opposite of skewing outcomes in their favor. And libertarians: still against corporate subsidies or any special privileges from the government for corporations.
I know that libertarians think that, but the practical reality of libertarian policies is precisely opposite. While I'm not doubting the earnestness of any given libertarians ideology as they see it, ideology is one thing, reality is another. Yes, it potentially takes republicans away..but that doesn't matter, since you're talking about one useful party stealing something for itself from another useful party - either way that something ends up in a useful party. The potential to take dems away is also there, and useful...since it will force dems to drift towards your policies to secure and pick up votes.

Quote:Rent-seeking behavior is not okay to libertarians. Speaking broadly, since libertarians are on a spectrum like any other relatively large group. The only thing the Koch brothers care about is making money, and Republicans serve them so well in that regard that they would be working against their own interests to back libertarian candidates.
That;s exactly what I said, in the post you just quoted......

Quote:They'd be better off backing Democrats on the theory that their money will suffice to tug their reigns once they're in office.
The numbers don't work.
Negatron, the dems won't give them what they want. They'll play ball in ways that disgust you and I both, but there is an immutable core of opposition namely, repubs and libs -and big business- want government out. Dems want it in.  

Quote:If I were an interested backer, I would give my money to Republicans. Giving my money to an LP candidate would not get me anything that I want (unless I voted that way for ideological reasons, i.e., because I was a Libertarian).
Right, because the libs currently have no political capital to spend....we agree. What big business wants is less regulation, diminished ability to act against their interests. Is that not something that the libs would give them, if they could?

You gotta think like a robber baron, baby. That's who these fuckers dream of being at night. They want less regulations for all of the same reasons that those robber barons did. They don't care why you, or any specific libertarian wants it. They don't care why you or any libertarian would make it happen. They just want to see it done. When/if it is done, it's not going to pan out the way that libertarians have imagined it. Their practical use as voters and legislators has a life and use independent of their own ideological fantasies.

If you need evidence, btw, that the lib platform has been -very- effectively co-opted..just turn on am radio.
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This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 20, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Anomalocaris - September 22, 2016 at 8:33 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Brian37 - September 22, 2016 at 9:07 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by GUBU - September 27, 2016 at 8:46 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by GUBU - September 30, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 20, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 20, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Foxaèr - September 20, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by LastPoet - September 23, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Brian37 - September 23, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 20, 2016 at 7:57 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 20, 2016 at 8:05 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Cato - September 21, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Gemini - September 21, 2016 at 9:32 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by bennyboy - September 22, 2016 at 3:55 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Whateverist - September 20, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 22, 2016 at 12:44 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by SteelCurtain - September 22, 2016 at 1:04 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Brian37 - September 22, 2016 at 9:31 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Whateverist - September 22, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Fake Messiah - September 22, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Cato - September 22, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Whateverist - September 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 22, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Crossless1 - September 22, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 23, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Cato - September 22, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Brian37 - September 22, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 23, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 25, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 26, 2016 at 8:16 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 30, 2016 at 2:59 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by SteelCurtain - September 30, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Cato - September 30, 2016 at 7:25 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 30, 2016 at 11:52 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 30, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Minimalist - September 30, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Cato - October 1, 2016 at 10:57 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Cato - October 2, 2016 at 7:12 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Kosh - October 2, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by GUBU - October 3, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Kosh - October 3, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by vorlon13 - October 4, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by The Grand Nudger - October 5, 2016 at 10:57 am
This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by KUSA - October 5, 2016 at 10:07 pm
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by GUBU - October 6, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by Aroura - October 6, 2016 at 12:32 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by GUBU - October 6, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail - by GUBU - October 6, 2016 at 1:53 pm
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