RE: Another Circumcision thread
October 7, 2016 at 4:45 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2016 at 4:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
@RobE - in regards to the chapter and verse above.
- thus the notably divergent rite of passage. Part of the contract to be included in "the people". At least they knew what their reasons were, and the nature of those reasons, when they did it to their offspring.
We've got people today thinking that they do it to keep their kids from getting an std, which it doesn't..... or because uncut peen is dirty, which it isn't. It;s like they can;t even believe the actual story of how all this dick cutting got started? Why is that, does it just sound ludicrous? Well..agreed..it -is- ludicrous.
@Cath
I don't think that you hold the opinion that you do -because- you're catholic, I think that catholicism provides cultural cover for an irrational and cruel position, just as it has always done, demonstrably, in this specific instance. Not just for you., for us. That's -how- it played into us to become an american tradition. We did it to stop people from being sinful, to combat the filth..which you today conceive of as material dirtiness despite there being none. The "reason" that we snip the tip, when we even have a reason, is that we're fetishists who see filth of every kind even when it isn't present. The narrative hasn't even changed. The idea of filth has, but only in a subtle way.
@Whatevs
IDK, I don't see a human being with rights in a fetus. I do see a human being with rights in a newborn. Nevertheless, I -do- see a problem with that, just not one that I think gives me cause to impose my will on the mother. No matter how much I dislike abortion, I won't sentence a woman to pregnancy, childbirth, and motherhood. Not sure what the analog is, between abortion and circumcision.
- thus the notably divergent rite of passage. Part of the contract to be included in "the people". At least they knew what their reasons were, and the nature of those reasons, when they did it to their offspring.
We've got people today thinking that they do it to keep their kids from getting an std, which it doesn't..... or because uncut peen is dirty, which it isn't. It;s like they can;t even believe the actual story of how all this dick cutting got started? Why is that, does it just sound ludicrous? Well..agreed..it -is- ludicrous.
@Cath
I don't think that you hold the opinion that you do -because- you're catholic, I think that catholicism provides cultural cover for an irrational and cruel position, just as it has always done, demonstrably, in this specific instance. Not just for you., for us. That's -how- it played into us to become an american tradition. We did it to stop people from being sinful, to combat the filth..which you today conceive of as material dirtiness despite there being none. The "reason" that we snip the tip, when we even have a reason, is that we're fetishists who see filth of every kind even when it isn't present. The narrative hasn't even changed. The idea of filth has, but only in a subtle way.
@Whatevs
IDK, I don't see a human being with rights in a fetus. I do see a human being with rights in a newborn. Nevertheless, I -do- see a problem with that, just not one that I think gives me cause to impose my will on the mother. No matter how much I dislike abortion, I won't sentence a woman to pregnancy, childbirth, and motherhood. Not sure what the analog is, between abortion and circumcision.
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