RE: Occams Hatchet and Is Materialism "Special"
October 8, 2016 at 10:04 am
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2016 at 10:17 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 7, 2016 at 10:00 pm)bennyboy Wrote: That's really not a very good definition of special pleading. There's nothing wrong with using a system of thought that works given a particular context, and abandoning in contexts for which it doesn't work.-and there you have assumed the truth of your special pleading argument.
Quote:Given that you can't sensibly claim knowledge of ultimate truth, then you can stick with what is true in the context in which you're trying to operate.Words and words and words. You're burying your rationalizations in rationalization.
Quote:As for QM, if by "necessarily materialistic," you mean "exists but has no volume, can be either a particle or a wave, can go back in time and correct its state to match what an observer did," then okay, but that's a pretty strained definition.Remind me again, is materialism stuck at billiards balls or does it include too much of what we've discovered? At what point do you think that someone who thinks science works and can be trusted..will start to be bothered by their description of matter changing to suit the evidence available..particularly over the course of centuries......? Are your standards even attainable? Because it seems like it's an issue of damned if you do, damned if you don't...with the only important thing being that materialism is wrong. You can't accept QMs description of matter, and then bitch about materialism as is. That's a self defeating rationalization.
Quote:As for fountain of woo-- it seems to me anything you can't hit with your club is woo.No, just the weird shit you and others believe about qm. Like, for example..it;s some sort of evidence that materialism is insufficient, despite being a materialists explanation in the first place, or that it suggests idealism...again by giving you a materialists explanation. That, in short..... it rules in magic, or rules out matter.
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