(October 16, 2016 at 1:13 pm)Aegon Wrote: I know little about Deism, but it appears to me like it's just a copout, a way to say that God exists and did create our universe without having to accept all the B.S. that traditionally comes with believing in God. It also sounds pointless; obviously if we were able to prove God created the universe and fucked off, it would be a huge deal. But at this point in time, all you're doing is replacing our non-explanation for the universe with God. And that's when it ends. You could say that anything created the universe / caused the Big Bang. What's the point in saying a God did it other than wishful thinking? And, from a religious standpoint, what's the point in believing a God that has no impact on your life?
Are there any Deists or former Deists here?
I disagree that it's a cop out.
Personally I think the belief that there is a supernatural supreme being who is responsible for putting our world into motion but doesn't necessarily care about what we do, is more plausible than not believing in any of that at all.
I think to most of them, it also isn't about wishful thinking or there being a "point" to it. It just makes more sense to them that there is something out there that, unlike anything else in our natural world, supersedes the laws of nature and time and was able to put everything into motion. I think Einstein's views in regards to there being a god/s were kind of aimed in this direction as well.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
