RE: Solved Theodicy?
October 24, 2016 at 11:45 am
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2016 at 11:47 am by robvalue.)
Hmm, I'm not sure I follow it all, but it looks fun 
The problem I find is that people generally try and give God so many superlatives that he ends up being paralysed by them. He can't do anything, without violating something or other. Even the act of making something other than himself is reducing existence from perfect to less than perfect.
I find what theists do is they jump between an all powerful God who can do anything, and a weaker version who is bound by these arbitrary constraints so as to excuse sub-optimal decision making. If they stick with the first side all the time, you can't keep the blame off him. But they refuse to stick with the second, because then it's just some guy with limited resources, working in an environment, rather than a god.
It's absolutely ludicrous to try and attribute superlatives to something anyway. Even if it made itself known to all, it can't demonstrate to us that it has any superlatives. For example, how does it demonstrate it knows everything? Beat us at trivial pursuit 100 times?
Yeah. Precognition and free will are at odds, no matter how much the theist desparately tries to wriggle out of it. And beyond it all is the question of "why". Why do any of this? And if you're going to do it, why be so shit at it? "Plans" are for beings that don't know the future and are trying to plot the best path. "Goals" are for beings who aren't certain of what they will achieve.

The problem I find is that people generally try and give God so many superlatives that he ends up being paralysed by them. He can't do anything, without violating something or other. Even the act of making something other than himself is reducing existence from perfect to less than perfect.
I find what theists do is they jump between an all powerful God who can do anything, and a weaker version who is bound by these arbitrary constraints so as to excuse sub-optimal decision making. If they stick with the first side all the time, you can't keep the blame off him. But they refuse to stick with the second, because then it's just some guy with limited resources, working in an environment, rather than a god.
It's absolutely ludicrous to try and attribute superlatives to something anyway. Even if it made itself known to all, it can't demonstrate to us that it has any superlatives. For example, how does it demonstrate it knows everything? Beat us at trivial pursuit 100 times?
Yeah. Precognition and free will are at odds, no matter how much the theist desparately tries to wriggle out of it. And beyond it all is the question of "why". Why do any of this? And if you're going to do it, why be so shit at it? "Plans" are for beings that don't know the future and are trying to plot the best path. "Goals" are for beings who aren't certain of what they will achieve.
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