Christians

[Cinjin]

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[quote='5thHorseman' pid='143315' dateline='1307470326']
Being a brit, all this stuff seems a bit weird, so I thought I'd browse a Christianity site. OMFG, they can't agree on anything. Seeing threads like 'how has god helped you' made me cringe. People saying things happen because god decides it, quickly followed by another Christian saying I don't believe god interferes etc. I take it many of you have seen this turd, but I think a nice link to insanity is fit here.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7565902/

Maybe I am missing the point here, but who cares if Christians disagree on things? Atheists disagree all the time on things.

Not to our beliefs on deity, or it's power, or our interpretation of atheism, it's quite simple. Christians on the other hand squabble over many, many things, like whether the bible is word for work or a metaphoric orgy. Us atheist know it's a plagiarised load of nonsense.

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I really don't see it that way. Atheists disagree on a whole slew of matters including is it possible God exists, are morals relative?, how life began on earth, the purpose of life, did Jesus ever exist?, the power/limitations of science, among many others. Just look at my "13 Questions" thread there are all sorts of different answers given to those questions by atheists, but the theists’ answers are all for the most part very similar. I think the only thing atheists really can agree on is that God or gods do not exist. Christians may disagree on doctrinal issues but there is far more they agree on than they disagree on. I will give you one thing though, there’s a very popular movement amongst Christians today to not study apologetics and theology. I think this is very sad, and it does lead to a lot of disagreement on issues just because people have never really studied what scripture actually says on that issue. I am just wondering what you think the fact Christians disagree on things even means though? Why should it matter?

I shouldn't get involved with this ... but damnit I'm going to.
You have a mild point Statler - Atheists don't always agree ... but it doesn't matter, they are not supporting a worldwide religion for others to adhere to.
... that is not my issue with your rebuttal.
When 5Horse said that Christians disagree a lot I think he is trying to say that Christianity is not remotely unified in it's doctrines and beliefs.
... still not really my issue with your rebuttal.

This is what I see as a biased fabrication in your rebuttal:

Christians may disagree on doctrinal issues but there is far more they agree on than they disagree on.

There are literally hundreds of denominations that claim the flag of Christianity. Not only do they disagree on doctrinal issues - they disagree on the tiniest of issues. Case in point. My neighbor across the street attends a "christian" church. His pastor is gay and they don't even believe that Jesus Christ was son of god. Rather a prophet of god. In my father's church of 1500 members, they believe that wine was grape juice and that it is a sin to smoke a cigarette or even go to a movie theater. I could go on an on. Christians ABSOLUTELY, and without a doubt disagree with each other constantly and without hesitation.
I would go as far as to say that it is far more common to see the differences between various Christians than it is to see any similarities. From denomination to denomination, you people are almost NEVER in agreement.