(November 8, 2016 at 2:00 pm)robvalue Wrote: This is a discussion I had with my wife recently, regarding something we heard in the news. A guy was using his phone at the wheel, and crashed into another car killing several people. He was given a jail sentence, around 10 years I think.
This got me thinking about the suitability of such a sentence. I think it's an interesting point to discuss. To me, the primary purpose of prison is to remove dangerous people from society. The secondary purpose, where possible, should be to rehabilitate them. This could sometimes be achieved simply by stopping them doing what they were doing, and giving them a new environment in which to reflect. The third and least important is punishment.
Why do we punish? If there is no other purpose to it, the only reasons we could come up with are "justice" and acting as a deterrent. The second I can understand the pragmatic value in, although it feels unsatisying to me when applied to adults.
In this particular case, it was an accident. The guy didn't mean to kill anyone. Of course, he is accountable. But what does anyone gain by him being in jail for 10 years? Is there a better alternative? As a rough suggestion, how about being banned from driving and being indebted to society in some way, being forced to "pay back" in a positive way, with prison time being reserved for refusal to adhere?
The immediate problem would be people suddenly not caring about running people over by accident. Would this really follow?
I'm not saying the current or alternate "punishments" are right or wrong, I'm very much unsure what would be best. I'm interested in peoples' thoughts!
I think the person definitely deserved 10 years or over. I saw another case, or it may even be the same one where a man killed someone while driving and using a mobile phone and this was after he'd already been caught around 3 times driving while talking on his phone.
Being banned from driving is nothing to someone who's already not bothered about disobeying driving laws. As for being indebted to society, it seems reasonable, but this person has killed several people. It's not really like he has a measurable debt he can pay off.
I have to admit that I've been distracted by my phone while driving before. But not, I don't think, in any significant amount. And I've never had a conversation on my phone without it being hands free before. I don't know how distracting it is because I've never tried doing it just on the basis that it's illegal and it's not worth the points or a fine.
If you like talking so much that you think it's worth risking a fine and points then just buy a hands free set instead. If you don't buy one then don't use your phone.
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