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Prison as punishment
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RE: Prison as punishment
(November 10, 2016 at 11:58 am)Rhythm Wrote: That would be isolation.  You put people in jail if you think that's the only way to stop them from doing "x".  OFC, you've just assumed that this is so in the case of the texter who hits someone.  I wonder what the rate of recidivism is for vehicular manslaughter?  I bet it's pretty low, which puts the hot pokers to the claim that jail is the only way to stop them.

I think it's ironic that you decided to drop a line about not being petty just to argue, considering the rational that directly preceded that sentence.  OFC there are people who will reoffend, or who will flaunt a ruling...but every "punshment" has it's flaws....so......

Unless were talking about those people, specifically, then what's the point?  OFC something additional has to be done about people who are comfortable reoffending, people who put themselves into contempt or violate the terms of their probation.  That;s sort of the point of probation.  To see if a person can comport themselves lawfully for a set period of time...so that we -don;t- have to ruin their lives with a prison time for, say, an accident.  Negligence, a momentary lapse in judgement not at all limited to them and currently being  expressed by many others who aren't so much as on probation or even receiving a warning - who are still texting and driving even though they can see that guy go to jail.

Let me ask this another way, what does sending the man to jail do that taking his license, and yes..confiscating his vehicle as part of an on-going judgement against him.... doesn't do, with respect to people being killed by text-and-drivers, or this specific text-and-driver?

Please quote me in the future because I normally just skim over things if they don't pertain to me. I just happened to see the petty just to argue and realized you were talking to me. Also what does OFC mean? And I disagree with the taking their car. That is their property that they paid for and unless they owe money I don't think it should be taken. What if they wanted to give it to their kid, if it was the only means of transportation for their spouse? If they only have one car and share it and you take it how is the spouse supposed to get to work?
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Prison as punishment - by robvalue - November 8, 2016 at 2:00 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Chad32 - November 8, 2016 at 2:13 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by robvalue - November 8, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Aroura - November 8, 2016 at 2:26 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Catholic_Lady - November 8, 2016 at 3:19 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by abaris - November 8, 2016 at 2:30 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by vorlon13 - November 8, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by brewer - November 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by mlmooney89 - November 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 8, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by vorlon13 - November 8, 2016 at 2:45 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by mlmooney89 - November 8, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Minimalist - November 8, 2016 at 3:13 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by robvalue - November 8, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Catholic_Lady - November 8, 2016 at 3:18 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by TheRealJoeFish - November 8, 2016 at 3:19 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 3:29 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by TheRealJoeFish - November 8, 2016 at 3:43 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Thumpalumpacus - November 8, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Aroura - November 8, 2016 at 3:47 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Minimalist - November 8, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by robvalue - November 9, 2016 at 3:59 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by paulpablo - November 9, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by paulpablo - November 9, 2016 at 4:19 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by robvalue - November 9, 2016 at 4:27 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by Regina - November 9, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Regina - November 9, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Edwardo Piet - November 9, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by mlmooney89 - November 9, 2016 at 2:59 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Regina - November 9, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by mlmooney89 - November 9, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Regina - November 10, 2016 at 2:14 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by mlmooney89 - November 10, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by wiploc - November 9, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by wiploc - November 9, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by vorlon13 - November 9, 2016 at 10:59 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by robvalue - November 10, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by Silver - November 10, 2016 at 4:54 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by paulpablo - November 10, 2016 at 12:13 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 10, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Prison as punishment - by mlmooney89 - November 10, 2016 at 12:27 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by mlmooney89 - November 10, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Whateverist - November 10, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by The Grand Nudger - November 10, 2016 at 12:41 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by paulpablo - November 10, 2016 at 5:44 pm
RE: Prison as punishment - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 6:57 am

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