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"the movement."
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RE: "the movement."
(November 16, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote: Then I began to think, in the history of the world, have Sub-Saharan Africans (S-SA) EVER in recorded history established a ideal empire, or a successful culturally and economically stable country? I could not come up with one example.
Uh, Aksum, Nubia, The Malian Empire, The Ashanti Empire, Ethiopia, probably more

A lot of what came before was lost to colonalism, in the same way a lot of Meso-American and Andean cultures were when the Spanish arrived. That doesn't mean they never existed, they just got overrun and destroyed and, yknow, history is written by the victors.

And as I've said before, African countries have been raped of any natural resources, and had borders placed at the expense of indigenous heritage, which have separated historically allied ethnic groups and forced together groups with historical conflicts. Do that, you set up these states to fail. I'm not going to say that everything is the fault of colonialism, there does come a point where people need to take some self-responsibility and drop draconian practices instead of blaming "colonialism" for starting them, but African countries weren't exactly given the best start.

It's like breaking someone's leg and asking them to walk on it.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
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"the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by ukatheist - November 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Divinity - November 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by abaris - November 16, 2016 at 12:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: "the movement." - by downbeatplumb - November 16, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 10:08 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 11:15 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 9:56 am
RE: "the movement." - by Ben Davis - November 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Losty - November 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Doubting Thomas - November 16, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Regina - November 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: "the movement." - by 8BitAtheist - November 16, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm
RE: "the movement." - by account_inactive - November 16, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 16, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 2:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 5:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: "the movement." - by FatAndFaithless - November 16, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Pat Mustard - November 19, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aegon - November 16, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: "the movement." - by TaraJo - November 16, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: "the movement." - by TaraJo - November 16, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Iroscato - November 16, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Iroscato - November 16, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 10:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 16, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 11:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2016 at 11:19 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 17, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 7:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 17, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 18, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 18, 2016 at 9:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 21, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 21, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 22, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 2:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 22, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:10 am
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 18, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Athene - November 16, 2016 at 11:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 18, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 7:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by ApeNotKillApe - November 17, 2016 at 8:44 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 18, 2016 at 7:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: "the movement." - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 19, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Shell B - November 21, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Shell B - November 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 22, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Foxaèr - November 22, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Pat Mustard - November 23, 2016 at 6:27 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 23, 2016 at 1:17 pm

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