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"the movement."
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RE: "the movement."
(November 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Uh, Aksum, Nubia, The Malian Empire, The Ashanti Empire, Ethiopia, probably more
You do know that all of those nation/states are defunct with the exception of Ethiopia right? Aside from Ethiopia the Ashanti was the next 'most viable' culture which was indeed warrior based culture. Until the brits went in and defeated them forcing them to sign a treaty which was the beginning of the end of their culture.

Violent-warrior cultures are kinda the opposite of what i was asking for. Even in your modern ethopian example it is a nation under civil unrest and turmoil.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Ethiopia...ia+turmoil

Is this the modern metropolis BLM is going to build here with it's elimination of prisons and it's own set of laws for black people in the US?

No thanks.
Quote:Are their any modern examples?
A lot of what came before was lost to colonalism, in the same way a lot of Meso-American and Andean cultures were when the Spanish arrived. That doesn't mean they never existed, they just got overrun and destroyed and, yknow, history is written by the victors.
what kind of BS are you trying to sell? every example of a kingdom/soceity you posted had it's 'roots' (pun intended) in the precolonial days!!! Or better yet only existed before colonialism took hold!!

Besides that what does a RECORD OF A MODERN SOCIETY have to do with an ancient record? The question is very 'black and white' Hehe Can you point to a modern civilization that people of "S-SA decent" run successfully outside of western culture?

Quote:And as I've said before, African countries have been raped of any natural resources, and had borders placed at the expense of indigenous heritage, which have separated historically allied ethnic groups and forced together groups with historical conflicts.
OM-Glob..
You know your argument may indeed be valid if the internet did not exist, or if you talked only to people who want to only view africa as being a victim laden continent.
Otherwise know:
Africa has a large quantity of natural resources, including diamonds, salt, gold, iron, cobalt, uranium, copper, bauxite, silver, petroleum and cocoa beans, but also woods and tropical fruits. Much of its natural resources are undiscovered or barely harnessed.
Natural resources of Africa - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_re..._of_Africa

Quote:Do that, you set up these states to fail.
These states fail for lack of leadership and infighting.
a pattern repeated over and over in one country after another, and now BLM wants to import this winning formula to the US?

Quote:I'm not going to say that everything is the fault of colonialism, there does come a point where people need to take some self-responsibility and drop draconian practices instead of blaming "colonialism" for starting them, but African countries weren't exactly given the best start.

It's like breaking someone's leg and asking them to walk on it.
colonialism has been dead for over 100 years. Africa has the world by the short and curlies in the way of super valuable natural resources, yet no one has tapped them. Again, it's been over 100 years where Africa is left to the Africans, yet Africa is worse off now than under colonial rule.
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"the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by ukatheist - November 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Divinity - November 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by abaris - November 16, 2016 at 12:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: "the movement." - by downbeatplumb - November 16, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 10:08 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 11:15 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 9:56 am
RE: "the movement." - by Ben Davis - November 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Losty - November 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Doubting Thomas - November 16, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Regina - November 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: "the movement." - by 8BitAtheist - November 16, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm
RE: "the movement." - by account_inactive - November 16, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 16, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:55 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 2:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 5:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: "the movement." - by FatAndFaithless - November 16, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Pat Mustard - November 19, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aegon - November 16, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: "the movement." - by TaraJo - November 16, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: "the movement." - by TaraJo - November 16, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Iroscato - November 16, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Iroscato - November 16, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 10:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 16, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 11:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2016 at 11:19 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 17, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 7:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 17, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 18, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 18, 2016 at 9:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 21, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 21, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 22, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 2:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 22, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:10 am
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 18, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Athene - November 16, 2016 at 11:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 18, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 7:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by ApeNotKillApe - November 17, 2016 at 8:44 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 18, 2016 at 7:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: "the movement." - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 19, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Shell B - November 21, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Shell B - November 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 22, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Paraselene - November 22, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Pat Mustard - November 23, 2016 at 6:27 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 23, 2016 at 1:17 pm

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