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"the movement."
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RE: "the movement."
(November 17, 2016 at 12:40 pm)Aristocatt Wrote: Doesn't seem anti-Democratic to want more representation. Seems like your just jumping the gun.
holy crap dude seriously? It's not just repersentation they want. The following is literally the first sentence:

We demand independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society.

next

We envision a remaking of the current U.S. political system in order to create a real democracy where Black people and all marginalized people can effectively exercise full political power.


This is not representation, this is a complete remake of the current political system that ensures "Black political power and black self determination.." EVEN IF the majority does not vote for it. That's the 'remake part.'
Quote:So now read the whole page up and down.  
You have to read the page in accordance to how it would effect change inorder to establish and maintain the two Political empowerment statement above.

You can't just read the rest of the page, and just ignore the primary stated objective, that is mornic. EVERYTHING Else on Page is How BLM suggests or is in support to how they are able to establish and maintain the primary objectives.

Quote:Re-contextualize what you just said and point to a specific anti-democratic policy.
IF You frame everything under the mission statement header, as you are supposed to do. Then everything on page becomes an anti democratic policy. Because again if the primary mission is to "demand independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society." Rather than Elect independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society. then the demand and all that follows become a non democratic policy, but rather authoritistic in nature.

Quote:Part of their argument on that page for having more political power(and where they most clearly express what you seem to think is anti-democratic) is that they are not being represented as much as they should be if America was a porperly functioning Democracy.  That's debatable sure, but their general point, if I understand correctly, is just that they want representation that they think they would have if Money/Gerrymandering/Institutional Racism were not there to distort the Democratic process.
Eye candy for bleeding hearts.
This action would indeed weaken the current power structure, effectively lowering the bar and making office more attainable for the average joe... However the problem is what makes anyone think this is just gong to allow a black only canidate to fill a political position? It's not. Which does not jive with the initial demand for black political power. Hence eye candy for a bleeding heart.

Quote:The demands BLM makes in order to destroy Democracy:
An end to the criminalization of Black political activity including the immediate release of all political prisoners and an end to the repression of political parties.
Public financing of elections and the end of money controlling politics through ending super PACs and unchecked corporate donations.
Election protection, electoral expansion and the right to vote for all people including: full access, guarantees, and protections of the right to vote for all people through universal voter registration, automatic voter registration, pre-registration for 16-year-olds, same day voter registration, voting day holidays, Online Voter Registration (OVR), enfranchisement of formerly and presently incarcerated people, local and state resident voting for undocumented people, and a ban on any disenfranchisement laws.
Full access to technology including net neutrality and universal access to the internet without discrimination and full representation for all.
Protection and increased funding for Black institutions including Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU’s), Black media and cultural, political and social formations.

Those things do indeed destabilize a democracy if infact the people's majority have via due process elected to have said rules.
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"the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by ukatheist - November 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by Divinity - November 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by abaris - November 16, 2016 at 12:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Opoponax - November 16, 2016 at 1:59 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by downbeatplumb - November 16, 2016 at 1:24 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 12:23 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 12:30 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Minimalist - November 16, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 11:15 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 9:56 am
RE: "the movement." - by Ben Davis - November 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Losty - November 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Doubting Thomas - November 16, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Regina - November 16, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:21 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 16, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 3:55 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 2:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 4:09 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by Whateverist - November 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Pat Mustard - November 19, 2016 at 4:48 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by TaraJo - November 16, 2016 at 4:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: "the movement." - by TaraJo - November 16, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Iroscato - November 16, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Iroscato - November 16, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 5:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 10:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 16, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2016 at 11:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2016 at 11:19 pm
RE: "the movement." - by brewer - November 17, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 7:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 16, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 16, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 17, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 18, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 18, 2016 at 9:28 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 21, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 21, 2016 at 2:22 pm
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RE: "the movement." - by Faith No More - November 18, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Athene - November 16, 2016 at 11:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: "the movement." - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 18, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 17, 2016 at 7:57 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: "the movement." - by ApeNotKillApe - November 17, 2016 at 8:44 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Aristocatt - November 18, 2016 at 7:13 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: "the movement." - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 19, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Shell B - November 21, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Shell B - November 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: "the movement." - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: "the movement." - by Thumpalumpacus - November 22, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Silver - November 22, 2016 at 2:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: "the movement." - by Pat Mustard - November 23, 2016 at 6:27 am
RE: "the movement." - by Drich - November 23, 2016 at 10:58 am
RE: "the movement." - by Cyberman - November 23, 2016 at 1:17 pm

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