RE: "the movement."
November 18, 2016 at 10:18 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2016 at 10:20 am by Drich.)
(November 17, 2016 at 5:48 pm)Aristocatt Wrote: Again, It sounds as though you are choosing to interpret the statement how you see fit.
From one perspective you suggest they are anti democratic.
From another perspective it seems as though they might be calling for a more perfect Democracy and are asserting that a series of institutional undemocratic barriers causes the black community to be underrepresented in society today.
Or you know maybe, like any activist group, they use the word demand loosely when creating a list of what they would like to see.
So with two/three/more competing ideas about what BLM really wants, we could of course send them an email and ask them to clarify their position. Maybe all of our interpretations are wrong! Or we could look at the rest of the page see what they say they want.
For example they make a series of "demands" about voter registration. Whether or not you think these are good ideas, the issue the are bringing up is specifically that current law disenfranchises their community. These are specifically claims that the current process is undemocratic.
So BLM makes a statement that summarizes their demands that is ambiguously undemocratic.
Then they say they want to improve democracy.
Then they have a series of demands that they explain should be met because if they are not, the democratic process itself is being undermined.
Sounds fishy. I think you are suffering from confirmation bias. You want BLM to be undemocratic so you work to prove, poorly, that they are undemocratic.
Inorder for you statement to be valid you have to cut out the "political power" mission statement out of the BLM manifesto.
Quote:We demand independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society.This statement alone (and the fact you will not discuss their own words here) disavows any spin you are attempting to put of their methods of achieving a "better democracy." Because our democracy does not make any race specific provisions or guarantees of power to specific race.
That Is why they say in the second 1/2 of the Mission statement that the current system must be changed. Not made 'better' as you are trying to spin, but to change it where there is always a black political power base in the government.
Quote:We envision a remaking of the current U.S. political system in order to create a real democracy where Black people and all marginalized people can effectively exercise full political power.
Nothing here about improving what we have, only the repeal and replacement of our current system with what BLM considers to be a "real democracy" one that ensures "an independent black political power and black self determination." Despite how the current system would vote on these issues.
So your right, i do have a confirmation bias as my understanding of what BLM is trying to do is confirmed by their OWN MISSION STATEMENT!
How do you not understand that the body of this section on political power is seen as to how the mission statement is supposed to be achieved? It even says "This includes:" (your eye candy) but it is not limited to those things. Again The Mission statement is the rudder on this boat. Your eye candy statements are meant to bridge a gap from the radical positions they hold to your bleeding heart middle ground, they are like a map. However the mission statement steers the BLM boat, not the map. The map is just where they may or may not plot a course. Ultimately the mission statement is what determines where the boat actually goes. So again my 'views' are verified by what BLM says it wants to do