Trump won the white working-man vote..

[Faith No More]

1. I never said that all Libertarians would have voted for Hillary.

2. A lot of people voted for Gary Johnson just because that's the third party name they heard most often. 

But if those people would have bothered to face the reality that either Trump or Hillary was going to win, I trust they would have made the sensible decision. 

Ultimately, Democrats not showing up is to blame, but a protest vote in this election was bereft of forethought. As I said already in this thread, there wasn't a single third party candidate on my ballot except the two hopeless fools we know about already. My district has over 300,000 people in it, and not a single third party candidate was up for anything. Not one. 

Yet, these clowns are somehow going to get elected POTUS? It's absurd. They don't do the work required to win votes where they could actually make a difference, which is locally, so why on earth would they deserve a vote for President of the United States? This is here in Southern California. There are plenty of open minded people here relative to the midwest and south. Yet they can't get on a local ballot here??? That's laziness. 

Until third parties lay the foundation upon which to build a viable political entity, they have no business getting anyone's POTUS vote. Hell, I'd vote Green for local office and if it was even somewhat close for a state or federal position, which means they would have done the work to get on the ballot and run a hard working campaign, they'd have my vote in a heartbeat. Instead, the most significant things they've managed to do is help Dubbya and Trump get elected.

No one votes for a third party because they think they'll win. That's absurd.  People vote third party because they're sick of what the Dems and Repubs bring each election, and they would like to see that a third and even a fourth party have more power and recognition.  This whole two-party system is the reason we're always stuck with choosing between the lesser of two evils, and we need to get more parties involved with real power.  But as long as the "if you don't vote for this guy, you're helping the other guy" is accepted, we'll be stuck two shitty choices every time.

And you don't even know what way the third party voters would have voted.  For all you know, if those voters had been forced to pick between the main two, they may have all gone to Trump.

And as to those millions of Dems that didn't vote, maybe pick an energizing candidate and don't try to rig the primary next time.  The Democratic Party and Hillary basically committed political seppuku throughout the this whole campaign.  You know, you can scramble to blame whomever you want, but the buck stops with them.