(June 13, 2011 at 6:58 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I disagree my friend. Both the New and Old Testament are filled with Trinitarian language and concepts. Even the Gospel of Matthew establishes the fact that Jesus was eternal in the 28th Chapter, "20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” The Trinity is a beautiful and necessary Christian Dogma that is arrived at systematically, by looking at scripture as a whole, not just one verse, passage, or book.Matt 28:20? Seriously? I'd have thought you'd at least have tried his misquote of Isaiah 7:14.
Actual research of Christian history and reading the books of the NT in the order they were written shows how Christian dogma developed and changed over time. The reason for the Trinity was so they could keep the OT with it's appeal to antiquity. Otherwise, the Romans would never have accepted it. But for that need, they would have gone with Marcionite Christianity. It at least is more internally consistent.
Quote:Actually the trinity is a concept that nearly all Christian denominations are united on.
There are eye witness accounts of Jesus after His death according to the historian Luke, so to say there is zero evidence is being disingenuous. You should probably rephrase that to say, "There isn't any evidence I accept for Jesus' resurrection."
Every time I hear Christians hold up their mythology as "historical documentation" that proves their mythology to be true, I have to chuckle, thinking of that movie where some aliens see an earth TV show and think it's a historical account. Got anything outside of Christian mythology?
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist