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Differences from societal norms
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RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 27, 2016 at 1:00 pm)MJ the Skeptical Wrote: I'm definitely not a moral relativist, so I do recognize that some societal values are better and more ethical than others, which is turn makes some cultures better than others. I usually feel disdain when I see cultures that subjugate and brutalize it's people. I don't have sympathy for the argument that it's just their culture and not to criticize it when people suffer at the expense of being tolerant to certain societal norms.

I read all that in Hitchens' voice because of your avatar haha, sounds very him

I do agree though. I wouldn't pretend any culture is perfect, there's always room for improvement. However, to pretend that all cultures are equal, acceptable and respectable is disingenuous though. Can you imagine if, over the last few hundred years, Europeans had accepted this "it's just our culture" argument? We'd still be burning people alive, going on witch hunts and practicing slavery. The free-thinkers of the enlightenment would have sneered at the idea that "peace" can be achieved by acceptance of oppression, dressed-up as authentic "diversity".
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 9:12 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:18 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:20 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 9:35 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 9:36 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 13, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 13, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Full Circle - November 13, 2016 at 9:57 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by chimp3 - November 13, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2016 at 10:06 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 10:29 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Divinity - November 13, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 11:08 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 12:27 pm
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RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 14, 2016 at 2:56 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Neo-Scholastic - November 13, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:01 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 5:13 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 13, 2016 at 6:21 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Neo-Scholastic - November 14, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2016 at 1:06 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Regina - November 13, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Aegon - November 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by AceBoogie - November 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 2:54 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Bob Kelso - November 14, 2016 at 3:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Dystopia - November 14, 2016 at 8:33 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 15, 2016 at 5:37 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Angrboda - November 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 17, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Autumnlicious - November 17, 2016 at 2:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 17, 2016 at 6:48 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 17, 2016 at 10:20 am
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RE: Differences from societal norms - by Little lunch - November 17, 2016 at 2:06 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 17, 2016 at 2:35 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 7:36 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 17, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by MJ the Skeptical - November 27, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Regina - November 27, 2016 at 3:20 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 27, 2016 at 10:17 pm

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