(June 17, 2011 at 9:52 am)Ryft Wrote: It is polytheistic if and only if each separate being is a god. Under orthodox Christian monotheism that is not the case, as confirmed in the scriptures, ancient creeds, liturgies, systematics, etc.
But Jesus is a god as is Yahweh. Saying they are the same god yet somehow separate beings is just a nonsensical evasion. It is an attempt to be monotheistic and polytheistic at the same time.
The problem with citing scripture to justify this creed, aside from your apparent circular reasoning that the creeds confirm the creeds, is that scripture is actually not so clear on the issue. Read the Synoptic Gospels and nothing else in the NT and you would come to the conclusion that not only is Jesus not God but is clearly subordinate to God.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist