(December 17, 2016 at 1:07 pm)Chas Wrote: I got sober in AA as an atheist and a humanist, and remained so.
The real strength of AA is peer support and shared experience, not religion or spirituality.
Just find (or start) groups that have less woo.
I just read the Daily Reflection, which states: "If I fail to stress the spiritual feature of A.A.'s program, I am being dishonest. The newcomer should not be given a false impression of sobriety. I am sober only through the grace of my Higher Power..."
And then your post. Quite the contrast! It helps to know that people can do sobriety without divine assistance.
A Gemma is forever.
