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Is God Perfact? How?
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RE: Is God Perfact? How?
(December 30, 2016 at 12:56 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: What do theists mean when they say god is perfect?

As you noted, it's not defined in the Bible in a way that everyone can agree. When I was a theist it meant that God is in full control of his thoughts and actions. Thus, his actions are always his own and not influenced by anything but his own desires and promises. James 3:2 states that a perfect human is "able to keep their whole body in check" while referring to a hypothetical person who is "never at fault in what they say." So a perfect person is in full control of his 'body' with the implication that this means he is in control of his thoughts and actions and able to avoid sin, unlike imperfect humans. On the human level, imperfection could be described as a genetic defect. On the divine level... that's tough to say. We know that angels rebelled against God. Do spirit creatures have DNA? Thinking

God's perfection, therefore, does not prevent him from feeling emotions --like anger-- or from taking any particular action --like lashing out violently. But he could not really lash out IN anger, because he has full control of his emotions and his reactions. His every action and decision is calculated because he cannot be swayed by emotion the way imperfect humans are. Thus his actions and decisions and statements should always be consistent and in harmony with the person that he is.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Angrboda - December 30, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - December 30, 2016 at 6:24 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by chimp3 - December 30, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - December 30, 2016 at 7:31 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - December 31, 2016 at 9:13 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - December 31, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - December 31, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - December 31, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 1, 2017 at 10:34 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Chad32 - January 1, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 2, 2017 at 8:16 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 7:51 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Godschild - January 5, 2017 at 9:16 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 9:44 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 6, 2017 at 8:23 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 7, 2017 at 7:14 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by ProgrammingGodJordan - January 12, 2017 at 4:40 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Asmodee - January 17, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 31, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by chimp3 - December 31, 2016 at 11:50 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - December 31, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Tonus - January 1, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 6, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Godschild - January 5, 2017 at 2:20 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 9:28 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 9:57 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Drich - January 5, 2017 at 10:49 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Drich - January 6, 2017 at 9:28 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 5, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 7, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 8, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 8, 2017 at 9:44 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 8, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 9, 2017 at 4:29 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 9, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 11, 2017 at 7:53 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 12, 2017 at 3:46 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 14, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 9, 2017 at 5:40 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Little Rik - January 11, 2017 at 10:11 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by chimp3 - January 9, 2017 at 8:02 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 9, 2017 at 8:34 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Astonished - January 9, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Asmodee - January 9, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 12, 2017 at 4:51 am
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Whateverist - January 14, 2017 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by Rhondazvous - January 15, 2017 at 6:38 pm
RE: Is God Perfact? How? - by robvalue - January 15, 2017 at 4:00 am

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