RE: Request from a Christian.
January 1, 2017 at 10:23 pm
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2017 at 10:26 pm by Mystical.)
(January 1, 2017 at 1:07 pm)Dragonspride1995 Wrote:(January 1, 2017 at 12:57 pm)Luckie Wrote: Apparently god can ignore us, but if we ignore him , we go to hellish fiery torment for all eternity. Lovely. And I suppose you're going to tell me I deserve hell because some mythical human in a garden being guarded by cherubs (no joke), ate an apple. Off the wrong tree.
Do you see what I'm getting at here sir or miss??
For the record, I read more of the Bible now than I did as a 'believer'. Maybe you might consider covering the book of Bible first. Because I guarantee every transgression I cited above, every discrimination, every malcontent thought--is based upon the contents of the bible. As a matter of fact, you're sinning by fraternizing with us atheists! If you think the old testament laws are disconnected from the laws you should be following as a good and true Christian? You're wrong. You either need to full on own the faith you proclaim (includong the dime throwing), or drop it. Right now you're luke warm, my friend. And once you know, you cannot unknow what it is that you knowingly have ccome to know that you know, you know?
1. I understand your line of reasoning.
2. You have not taken the mosaic law into the context of the laws you are citing
3. You are missing the "When in Israel" Portion in the beginning of the chapter.
Again for theological reasons I disagree with you. However out of respect for the context of the thread I won't get into them.
This is perfect of example of why Christians turn a blind eye to the transgressions of other professed Christians. It's called the no true Scotsman fallacy, and other Christians are just as able to disown you from their religion as you are them. To them, it is you who does not adhere to the bible that they follow. Until you grasp this concept, your notion of writing a book on the wrongs Christians commit without understanding their reasoing, is useless at best.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
Luke 12:51-52
51 "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division." 52 "For from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three"
Matthew 10:34-35
34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." 35 "For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.