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Believe:
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RE: Believe:
(April 24, 2009 at 2:04 am)athoughtfulman Wrote:
(April 24, 2009 at 1:35 am)g-mark Wrote: If something is untrue, is it a belief? Even though we 'believe' it is true?

If something isn't true, then I would hold that it is non-belief, not a negative belief.


(April 24, 2009 at 1:35 am)g-mark Wrote: Can you explain please teacher. Because you stated:

Quote:belief - any cognitive content held as true
source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=belief

If we take the above definition as true, then every single thing that we understand and recognize as true, is counted as a belief. So everyone is a believer in something, but being a believer does not mean you have faith.

Or is this just your opinion. Who is to say your opinion is correct?

It's not an opinion, I am quoting the dictionary. Read the definition - belief - any cognitive content held as true. If you want to dispute the truth of the dictionary, take it up with them. I am merely using it because you asked.

And the definition of cognitive content is - the sum or range of what has been perceived, discovered, or learned

If we accept the above definitions, then anything that has been perceived, discovered, or learned is a belief, which means that anything we hold as true is a belief. As for what is not true, the correct way to describe it would be non-belief.

Ok thank you. Your definitions are good. I think I needed that. My strong suit wasn't grammer, more maths and science.

This is true when talking in terms of nouns. Very interesting actually.

With regards to faith: I found this.

be⋅lief
   /bɪˈlif/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [bi-leef] Show IPA
–noun
1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.
Origin:
1125–75; earlier bile(e)ve (n. use of v.); r. ME bileave, equiv. to bi- be- + leave; cf. OE gelēafa (c. D geloof, G Glaube; akin to Goth galaubeins)

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Believe: - by g-mark - April 19, 2009 at 1:43 am
RE: Believe: - by dagda - April 19, 2009 at 4:32 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 19, 2009 at 7:21 am
RE: Believe: - by LukeMC - April 19, 2009 at 9:27 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 19, 2009 at 11:24 am
RE: Believe: - by LukeMC - April 19, 2009 at 2:00 pm
RE: Believe: - by Tiberius - April 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Believe: - by LukeMC - April 19, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2009 at 3:54 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 4:41 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 20, 2009 at 6:32 am
RE: Believe: - by leo-rcc - April 20, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2009 at 7:48 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 20, 2009 at 8:34 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2009 at 10:22 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 4:02 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 4:32 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - April 22, 2009 at 4:23 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 5:27 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 6:15 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 11:18 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2009 at 11:40 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 23, 2009 at 5:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 23, 2009 at 8:46 pm
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 24, 2009 at 7:27 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 24, 2009 at 1:13 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 24, 2009 at 1:35 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - April 24, 2009 at 2:04 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 24, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 24, 2009 at 9:04 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - April 24, 2009 at 9:18 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 25, 2009 at 8:41 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 27, 2009 at 8:33 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 28, 2009 at 8:12 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 28, 2009 at 9:52 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 24, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - April 27, 2009 at 5:20 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - April 28, 2009 at 8:18 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - April 29, 2009 at 8:15 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - April 29, 2009 at 11:13 am
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RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 1, 2009 at 4:32 am
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RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 1, 2009 at 11:31 am
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RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 2, 2009 at 8:21 am
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RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 2, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 5, 2009 at 6:28 am
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - May 2, 2009 at 6:49 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 3, 2009 at 4:45 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 3, 2009 at 4:52 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 3, 2009 at 8:35 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 3, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 4, 2009 at 5:19 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 4, 2009 at 5:44 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 4, 2009 at 6:48 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 4, 2009 at 8:04 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 4, 2009 at 8:29 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 4, 2009 at 9:07 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 4, 2009 at 9:36 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 5, 2009 at 3:55 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 5, 2009 at 9:25 pm
RE: Believe: - by Kyuuketsuki - May 6, 2009 at 5:28 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 10:38 am
RE: Believe: - by Tiberius - May 6, 2009 at 1:08 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 1:09 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 6, 2009 at 1:36 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 6, 2009 at 3:28 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 6, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 6, 2009 at 9:26 pm
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 7, 2009 at 8:51 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 7, 2009 at 10:30 pm
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 7, 2009 at 8:53 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 7, 2009 at 9:22 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 7, 2009 at 10:35 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 7, 2009 at 10:53 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 7, 2009 at 11:48 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 7, 2009 at 9:25 pm
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 8, 2009 at 6:37 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 8, 2009 at 12:49 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 8, 2009 at 8:46 am
RE: Believe: - by Lotus - May 8, 2009 at 9:10 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 8, 2009 at 9:41 pm
RE: Believe: - by padraic - May 8, 2009 at 10:24 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 8, 2009 at 10:34 pm
RE: Believe: - by Lotus - May 9, 2009 at 7:55 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 9, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: Believe: - by lilphil1989 - May 12, 2009 at 4:59 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 9, 2009 at 8:15 am
RE: Believe: - by Pippy - May 9, 2009 at 2:48 pm
RE: Believe: - by Tiberius - May 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Believe: - by Ace Otana - May 12, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 3:58 pm
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RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 5:03 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 7:25 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 4:49 am
RE: Believe: - by lilphil1989 - May 13, 2009 at 4:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 5:03 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 12:41 pm
RE: Believe: - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 5:36 pm
RE: Believe: - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 4:07 am
RE: Believe: - by g-mark - May 14, 2009 at 11:40 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - May 15, 2009 at 10:51 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Believe: - by athoughtfulman - May 15, 2009 at 10:58 am
RE: Believe: - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 12:52 pm

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