(June 30, 2011 at 2:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Happen to have links for the threads that prove the descriptions of gods attributes are logically defensible btw? I'm a compulsive reader.
[ARCHIVED] - The attributes of the Christian God exhibit logical contradictions.
Obviously, proving a negative is impossible except for statements like "The sun doesn't exist" or "The moon is not made of cheese" because those are facts which do not enter into the realm of the metaphysical.
Logic alone cannot prove God because from the perspective of mathematics, as demonstrated by Godel's Incompleteness Theorem, there are inherent limitations in essentially all mathematical systems, with the exception of a few trivial ones, because they are contingent upon certain axioms within a system that have to be assumed to be true in the first place without any proof (which may or may not be true). Hence logic is "incomplete" when you get to it's deepest level.
It would be more helpful to mention what constitutes as a "proof" of anything. The word can mean either "persuasive (though not necessarily infallible) evidence" or "absolute verification of something, impossible to deny". Either way, the idea relies more on our own subjective acceptance or agreement with something instead of objective fact and ignores the fact that there is quite literally nothing whatsoever a human mind cannot deny while still thinking it's only the mind itself being rational about the subject.
