RE: Time traveling is just full of crap, innit?
February 19, 2017 at 11:33 pm
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2017 at 11:59 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
How is time being defined here?
60 seconds is 60 seconds.
This is because a light year is related to light and the length of a year and rotation of the earth is also related to the sun (or other stars) and light, right?
I mean if we are defining 60 seconds as 60 seconds then... I mean.... any amount of time whatever that amount of time is is still that amount of time regardless of speed.
It seems to me that the theory of relativity only happens because light is being considered relevant to time right?
What is time? I personally think that the present is all that exists. The past is what existed and the future is what will exist. All that exists is the present. So time travel is logically impossible unless you're literally redefining time to fit your particular theory of physics. It's all very true and correct and the theory of relativity is indeed accurate... but I wouldn't call that time. To me time is just a concept and the past and future don't exist.
Before we can even get into the physics of time we have to ask what time is or if it's even real and there is also an A theory and a B theory of time.
For once I actually agree with Pool as much as he is an utter illogical fuckhead and I don't think time travel is nonsense for the same reason as him. I think time travel makes no sense unless we're talking about something that isn't actually time. It's like how science discovered the atom but only after redefining what "atom" means to mean something that turned out to be splitabble which is precisely what an atom isn't. And how Lawrence Krauss talks of a universe "from nothing" and then talks about empty space teeming with quantum activity that clearly isn't actually nothing. All the maths and the evidence is good, but science has to redefine things because its models are constantly changing to fit its accurate theories. Time travel may be possible but only when the concept of time changes so much to fit the facts that we aren't even talking about time anymore so no time travel isn't possible really. Space travel at the speed of life is possible and then we can redefine things to say that some parts of the universe have happened some are happening and some will happen all at the same time which is actually a logical contradiction so it can't actually be true if we're still actually talking about the normal basic definition of time. What doesn't exist yet doesn't exist yet. What's in the future hasn't happened yet and what is in the past has already happened and is not happening. Only what's happening is happening. Pretty basic stuff until we redefine it into something else entirely. Either we're talking about what happened what is happening and will happen or IOW what people usually mean by time and hence what people usually mean by time travel... or we're talking about the theory of relativity and an entirely different conceptualization of time that matches with that but certainly isn't time travel like someone in the past visits someone in the future or vice versa and time travel paradoxes and all that impossible, but fun, jazz and bunk.
60 seconds is 60 seconds.
This is because a light year is related to light and the length of a year and rotation of the earth is also related to the sun (or other stars) and light, right?
I mean if we are defining 60 seconds as 60 seconds then... I mean.... any amount of time whatever that amount of time is is still that amount of time regardless of speed.
It seems to me that the theory of relativity only happens because light is being considered relevant to time right?
What is time? I personally think that the present is all that exists. The past is what existed and the future is what will exist. All that exists is the present. So time travel is logically impossible unless you're literally redefining time to fit your particular theory of physics. It's all very true and correct and the theory of relativity is indeed accurate... but I wouldn't call that time. To me time is just a concept and the past and future don't exist.
Before we can even get into the physics of time we have to ask what time is or if it's even real and there is also an A theory and a B theory of time.
For once I actually agree with Pool as much as he is an utter illogical fuckhead and I don't think time travel is nonsense for the same reason as him. I think time travel makes no sense unless we're talking about something that isn't actually time. It's like how science discovered the atom but only after redefining what "atom" means to mean something that turned out to be splitabble which is precisely what an atom isn't. And how Lawrence Krauss talks of a universe "from nothing" and then talks about empty space teeming with quantum activity that clearly isn't actually nothing. All the maths and the evidence is good, but science has to redefine things because its models are constantly changing to fit its accurate theories. Time travel may be possible but only when the concept of time changes so much to fit the facts that we aren't even talking about time anymore so no time travel isn't possible really. Space travel at the speed of life is possible and then we can redefine things to say that some parts of the universe have happened some are happening and some will happen all at the same time which is actually a logical contradiction so it can't actually be true if we're still actually talking about the normal basic definition of time. What doesn't exist yet doesn't exist yet. What's in the future hasn't happened yet and what is in the past has already happened and is not happening. Only what's happening is happening. Pretty basic stuff until we redefine it into something else entirely. Either we're talking about what happened what is happening and will happen or IOW what people usually mean by time and hence what people usually mean by time travel... or we're talking about the theory of relativity and an entirely different conceptualization of time that matches with that but certainly isn't time travel like someone in the past visits someone in the future or vice versa and time travel paradoxes and all that impossible, but fun, jazz and bunk.
