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Muslim Child Abuse
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RE: Muslim Child Abuse
(July 4, 2011 at 12:20 am)Judas BentHer Wrote: Is there any religious tradition that's truly civilized?
Secular society is civilised where it mimics religious ideals. We happen to have inherited it, and what we think of civilized is also in line with the religious POV. Strange that.
(July 4, 2011 at 5:42 am)Rayaan Wrote: Fr0d0, you said:

"There is specific instruction there that a valid last resort is physical violence - where physical violence is abhorrent."

You are right, in saying that physical violence is abhorrent, however, the "violence" is actually a physical contact which is not supposed to bruise or severely injure the wife (kind of like a parent hitting a child). Why? Because the Arabic word is "wadribuhunna," from the root word "darb," which has many meanings which include to "hit or strike lightly." Scholars have also placed limits on what form of "hitting" is allowed such as only using the hand and not striking the face or any of the delicate parts of the body.
Even given the term refers to "a light beating", just think how degrading and demoralising that is. The woman has to feel about a millimetre tall after getting a corrective slap from the master of the house. This isn't anything like a respectful marriage where the female is treasured and honoured.

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Muslim Child Abuse - by Napoléon - June 29, 2011 at 1:02 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2011 at 1:20 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - June 29, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by padraic - June 29, 2011 at 8:05 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2011 at 1:22 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - June 29, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2011 at 1:31 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - June 29, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - June 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - June 29, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by fr0d0 - June 30, 2011 at 2:30 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by reverendjeremiah - June 29, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by DaveD - June 29, 2011 at 5:29 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2011 at 5:35 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - June 29, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - June 29, 2011 at 7:53 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - July 3, 2011 at 11:24 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - June 29, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by TheYoungAtheist - June 29, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Autumnlicious - June 30, 2011 at 3:06 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Napoléon - June 30, 2011 at 5:38 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by fr0d0 - June 30, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Napoléon - June 30, 2011 at 8:55 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Violet - July 3, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 3, 2011 at 7:58 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 4, 2011 at 12:20 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Violet - July 4, 2011 at 12:30 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2011 at 7:33 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by LastPoet - July 4, 2011 at 8:07 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Ace Otana - July 4, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 2:52 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - July 4, 2011 at 4:05 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 4, 2011 at 5:42 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Skipper - July 4, 2011 at 7:19 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Epimethean - July 4, 2011 at 9:12 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - July 4, 2011 at 11:18 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by downbeatplumb - July 4, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 4, 2011 at 10:00 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - July 5, 2011 at 3:45 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 6, 2011 at 11:42 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 10:12 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 4, 2011 at 10:40 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 10:48 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 4, 2011 at 11:24 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 11:34 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 5, 2011 at 3:19 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 5, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 11:59 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 5, 2011 at 12:08 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 5, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 9:43 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Napoléon - July 6, 2011 at 7:01 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 10:26 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Darwinian - July 6, 2011 at 10:38 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Faith No More - July 6, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Napoléon - July 6, 2011 at 11:42 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - July 5, 2011 at 8:19 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 10:49 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Epimethean - July 6, 2011 at 10:52 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by DaveD - July 6, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Napoléon - July 6, 2011 at 4:37 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 6, 2011 at 7:07 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Faith No More - July 7, 2011 at 2:51 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 7, 2011 at 11:55 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Cinjin - July 8, 2011 at 11:10 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 17, 2011 at 5:12 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Minimalist - July 6, 2011 at 7:13 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Judas BentHer - July 6, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Epimethean - July 7, 2011 at 3:01 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Violet - July 7, 2011 at 3:29 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Epimethean - July 7, 2011 at 10:14 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Violet - July 7, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 7, 2011 at 4:22 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Napoléon - July 7, 2011 at 7:09 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2011 at 8:30 am
RE: Muslim Child Abuse - by Rayaan - July 8, 2011 at 7:30 pm

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