RE: Why is halal legal?
July 5, 2011 at 2:47 pm
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2011 at 3:03 pm by Violet.)
(July 5, 2011 at 5:56 am)Napoleon Wrote: Because the hypocrisy of the 'ritual' in question goes AGAINST what the law fucking stands for. That's how it affects "its legality or the process of law". I know you're a raging anarchist Sae but how can you miss that one?
Law often does this. Makes exceptions here and there. That's exactly what I meant when I said hypocrisy.
If it didn't: it would crumble in any nontotalitiarin society.
(July 5, 2011 at 6:50 am)Skipper Wrote: Sae, there are laws that are there to protect the welfare of animals....even when they are being slaughtered. What is being argued is halal goes against he laws the rest of society has to follow and gets away with it purely because it claims it is a religious practice.
And that kind of defeats the purpose. Animal is being slaughtered: it's welfare has evaporated.
'Getting away with' a noncrime that under difference circumstances would be a crime is... not a crime. Halal is a religion practice, claimed or not.
Law is not consistent. And it doesn't have to make sense.
(July 5, 2011 at 10:44 am)Napoleon Wrote:(July 5, 2011 at 8:14 am)FaithNoMore Wrote: They are under for attack for infringing on religious rights.
Infringing religious rights? ARE THEY HAVING A FUCKING LAUGH?
The rights of mister piggy here:
Are WAY more important than some shitty 'religious rights'.
Rights, rights, rights, rights, rights, rights...
My gods I wish people would shut up about them. Oh that sense of entitlement... that really does get on my nerves.
(July 5, 2011 at 1:14 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote:(July 5, 2011 at 1:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Just saying a word before killing is as meaningless as it gets in my book.
It has nothing to do with saying words, it has to do with slaughtering the animal while it's still conscious. If we're going to eat meat we should make the practice as humane as possible.
If we want our meat as humane as it gets... why don't we eat humans?
The suffering of the dead is irrelevant as they feel nothing now.
(July 5, 2011 at 1:49 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: Right, if animals don't want to be eaten they should stop tasting so good. That doesn't mean they should be tortured in the process though.
Animals mass produced are in a constant state of torture. Their existence is itself torture. Chickens so fat they can't even walk... cows packed so tightly even old soviet russian prisons would have paused... creatures bred from day one to die. Their existence is a means to an end, they are not considered as individuals and their life is an accident on the way to producing more cheap meat.
Until you stop most of your current mass-meat production practices in the west: you have zero credence in my eyes to call Halal barbaric.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
