Muslim Child Abuse

[Judas BentHer]

lol, I'm only saying that Julian gave it a go, with regards to attempting some civility towards the christians of his day. It didn't work out, especially for him, obviously. Can you give me that?

I surely can.

That this token effort does not stand up to our very much improved concept of civility is obvious, and expected. None the less, it was an effort.

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True. It will forever remain in history as that example, at the very least. The effort and no matter even if it enjoyed a peripheral success, was a success none the less no matter the degree. Julian had a lot of guts.

missing words are the bane of my existence btw.

Sucks, doesn't it? Especially when the "edited" message at the top of my post makes it so obvious and gives me away.Reminding me with a message in it's own right; shoulda not been so optimistic all the words were there and proof read instead, dummy.

I'm going to rephrase my argument here, not so much for you, but as is my habit, for lurkers (who outnumber us)...

*waves to reading lurkers*

Per the rest of your observation below this excerpt, well said.

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In short, I'll say this for now:

People who profess the Islamic faith do commit mistakes. Many have committed atrocities, but just as your attitude towards them is not (necessarily) representative of reality, neither is their attitude (necessarily) representative of Islam.

It's my personal opinion of that what you admit in your own words are mistakes and atrocities committed by some Muslims, that addresses what those particular individuals interpret from the Koran and that does inspire their committing mistakes and atrocities that are demonstrated in reality. So what are you talking about? Except to apologize and excuse certain Muslims mistakes and atrocities by claiming it's not representative of Islam!

When Imam's, you do know what those are, address the public at large and most especially speak to those Muslims listening, and profess violence, Fatwah, etc... is necessary, right, correct, a duty, part of the struggle (Jihad) are we suppose to ignore that?
Or is there to be another excuse that that is not representative of Islam?
You'll do well to understand that many people here know the history of Islam. And apologize, make excuses, claim attrocities are not representative of Islam as you like, it doesn't serve the truth of the matter of what is the history of Islam as represented by those claiming to be Muslim and as such representatives of Islam.