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Poll: Do you think halal meat is humane?
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I'm a muslim of course I do!
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Why is halal legal?
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RE: Why is halal legal?
(July 5, 2011 at 12:57 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Halal is barbaric.
The wiki article I quoted itself, gave sources and quotes from reputable people in the fields of medicine, science and animal welfare, that slitting the throat of an animal and letting it bleed out for up to 2 minutes in excruciating pain is NOT humane. It is NOT on a level par with stunning an animal first. Don't even go there. It's an argument which has been disproven already by people with far much more expertise than you and I.

This doesn't mean that what you saw in the wiki article is correct. As it happens in many studies in the field of science, you'll see that there are scientists who come up with different and even contrary results. You have to decide for yourself which is more sound and reasonable. For example, Dr. Temple Grandin, an animal scientist from Colorado, has done a tremendous amount of research on the subject of animal slaughtering and suffering. Here's a study of hers and I think it's well worth the read (or a brief glance at least):

Religious Slaughter and Animal Welfare: A Discussion for Meat Scientists

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Also, here's a lecture by her on humane animal slaughter (Part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoNErsJNPzw

(July 5, 2011 at 1:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Just saying a word before killing is as meaningless as it gets in my book. Talk about religious in words only.

Of course ...

It's not only the words that matter, but especially the faith and intention in our hearts - and the two are not necessarily exclusive - we have to say the words and know the reason for saying them at the same time.

(July 5, 2011 at 1:46 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Its a question of suffering. A shot to the head is less painfull than a slit throat.

The suffering of the animal ends very quickly and it doesn't matter once it is killed and eaten. As I said before, we do this as a sacrifice, and we believe that there is a greater blessing in the food when God's name is mentioned upon the slaughtering.
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Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 4, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 4, 2011 at 6:30 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 6:38 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Minimalist - July 4, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Magic Pudding - July 4, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Justtristo - July 5, 2011 at 6:53 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Anymouse - July 5, 2011 at 2:35 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by padraic - July 4, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 9:40 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by padraic - July 8, 2011 at 3:41 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 4, 2011 at 11:01 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 11:08 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 4, 2011 at 11:13 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2011 at 11:24 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 5, 2011 at 4:20 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 5, 2011 at 5:56 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 5, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 3:35 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 5, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2011 at 4:04 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 5, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Skipper - July 5, 2011 at 6:50 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 8:14 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 5, 2011 at 10:44 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 11:29 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 5, 2011 at 11:34 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 11:39 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by downbeatplumb - July 5, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 1:49 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 11:51 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 5, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2011 at 1:02 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 5, 2011 at 1:14 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 5, 2011 at 1:48 pm
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RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 5, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 5, 2011 at 6:23 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 5, 2011 at 7:52 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 5, 2011 at 8:39 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 6, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 6, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by BloodyHeretic - July 6, 2011 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 6, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by BloodyHeretic - July 6, 2011 at 4:19 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 4:31 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 6, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 6, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 6, 2011 at 5:00 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Skipper - July 6, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 5:35 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 6, 2011 at 5:37 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 6, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 7, 2011 at 2:58 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 7, 2011 at 3:27 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 7, 2011 at 3:40 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 7, 2011 at 3:46 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2011 at 7:56 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2011 at 8:12 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 7, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 7, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 8, 2011 at 12:20 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 7, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 8, 2011 at 12:32 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Faith No More - July 8, 2011 at 12:48 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 8, 2011 at 1:03 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 8, 2011 at 7:00 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 8, 2011 at 12:58 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 8, 2011 at 8:33 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 8, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 8, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 8, 2011 at 6:37 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 9, 2011 at 10:03 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 9, 2011 at 10:12 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 9, 2011 at 10:13 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 9, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 9, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 9, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 9, 2011 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 9, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Epimethean - July 9, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Epimethean - July 9, 2011 at 6:14 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by The Grand Nudger - July 9, 2011 at 7:15 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 9, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 10, 2011 at 7:20 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 10, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 10, 2011 at 2:47 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Epimethean - July 10, 2011 at 3:17 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 10, 2011 at 4:22 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 10, 2011 at 5:03 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Epimethean - July 10, 2011 at 10:07 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Atheist Jew - July 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Violet - July 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Napoléon - July 11, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Epimethean - July 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RE: Why is halal legal? - by Rayaan - July 11, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: Why is halal legal? - by fr0d0 - July 11, 2011 at 4:19 pm

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