(March 6, 2017 at 12:57 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(March 6, 2017 at 12:46 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense to me. It sounds like you are saying you don't know if gods really exist but then turn around and say they don't. I'm not criticizing I just don't understand. To me it's very black and white- either gods exists or they don't. I say they don't so I'm an atheist. I have no belief in them and when reworded I lack a belief in them.
But how exactly are you determining that? What is the sure, tell tale signs of a god's presence? What do we know about the nature of gods which is uncontroversial by which we can reach a conclusion? I've got nothing.
I'm saying that based on the xtian idea that god created all and has nothing better to do than to stand in judgement of one simian species on our planet, no I don't believe that. But I have no positive evidence that it isn't so, do you? I mean how can we when they go to such lengths to put the thing out of reach of reason and science in something they call the supernatural zone. This is mumbo jumbo and undeserving of serious consideration.
But that's just agnostic means! This is where I am confused. "a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena" If you don't know then shouldn't you just be agnostic? Me knowing gods don't exist isn't any different than Christian's 'knowing' one does. But I still have full confidence in saying magic isn't real therefore gods aren't as well. "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods." Wouldn't how you see it fall more under agnostic and not atheist just because you haven't found a god to believe in?
“What screws us up the most in life is the picture in our head of what it's supposed to be.”
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Also if your signature makes my scrolling mess up "you're tacky and I hate you."
