(March 6, 2017 at 2:17 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:(March 6, 2017 at 12:59 pm)SteveII Wrote: It's a word game about burden of proof. Atheist think that if it's simply a "lack of belief", they don't shoulder any intellectual burden of proof for their belief.
With that logic, babies are atheists because they "lack a belief". The fact is, all atheists have an opinion on whether any god exists or not.
Hello, SteveII. Out of curiosity, regarding the concepts of god and scientific truth, are you familiar with the concept of an isomorphism from mathematics?
Please forgive me, but essentially, suppose we have two groups, A and B, which appear to be different; however, if we can rename the elements of group A so that they coincide with the properties and patterns of the elements of group B, then we have effectively transformed A into B. In essence, A and B are actually the same groups and the only difference is that they have different names for their elements. Hence, A and B are isomorphic to each other; we can equivalently say that there is an isomorphism from A to B.
With that said, is it possible that the pursuit of scientific truth and the pursuit of god, despite being different ways of interpreting reality, could ultimately lead humanity to the same conclusion (or perhaps multiple conclusions?); however, because this conclusion was pursued via different modes of thought, could people actually be calling it something different when it is actually not? [1]
Does gaining an accurate understanding of reality extend beyond humanity's current level of thought, whether it be via god concepts, a lack of god concepts, or some other current means of understanding the world around us? [2]
1. I agree. If God exists, then all truth is God's truth and while we might use different methods to examine different areas, it would have to lead to the same conclusions.
2. I believe that God create the universe to be explored and figured out (that's why science flourished better under a Christian worldview than a worldview that imbued nature with supernatural qualities). I also think he has given us enough revelation (natural and revealed) to understand him as much as we are capable.