(March 6, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:(March 6, 2017 at 2:56 pm)SteveII Wrote: 1. I agree. If God exists, then all truth is God's truth and while we might use different methods to examine different areas, it would have to lead to the same conclusions.
2. I believe that God create the universe to be explored and figured out (that's why science flourished better under a Christian worldview than a worldview that imbued nature with supernatural qualities). I also think he has given us enough revelation (natural and revealed) to understand him as much as we are capable.
Thank you for your reply, SteveII. I'm afraid that I did not communicate my questions very well. Regarding [1], is the conclusion you came to, namely that if god exists then all truth is god's truth, the only conclusion? Is it equally valid for a scientist to say that if all truth can be obtained via scientific truth, then all truth is scientific truth? Hence, regarding [1] and [2], does ultimate truth exist outside of god and science? Are god and science just means for people to pursue some truth that is currently beyond their understanding?
1. No, it is not the case nor will it ever be the case that scientific knowledge can answer all our questions (not even close). Great stretches of human thinking/achievement have nothing to do with science: philosophy, mathematics, language, aesthetics, the any of social sciences, etc. In addition, science requires the philosophy of science to underpin everything it does--something decidedly not scientific.
2. Based on 1, I think it is clear that science and God are not two paths to the same knowledge. Science is a tool (of many) and not to be shunned, ignored, or despised by those who believe in God. Science does not have the ability to comment on God, the supernatural, or and truths we might arrive at through non-scientific methods.