(March 8, 2017 at 8:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(March 8, 2017 at 6:34 pm)Jesster Wrote: Yes, people can and do use many varieties of meanings for words. That's why I am laying down my definitions. It's not my problem if you reject every one of them. That just means that you don't want to have a real conversation about what atheists do or do not believe.
Most atheists consider not believing in gods all that is necessary to be defined as an atheist. If you believe that is somehow insufficient to define one as an atheist, that is up to you to discuss it with that particular atheist why your definition is better.
What is important though, is not definitions, but concepts.
I do not currently believe that any of the gods ever presented to me, exist. If you don't want to call me an atheist, that is fine. I don't really care. But that does not alter the concept that I don't currently believe any gods exist.
Thanks. This is exactly what I was trying to say in the beginning until certain theists tried to muddy the waters. This isn't complicated.