(March 10, 2017 at 10:37 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 10, 2017 at 10:15 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Normally in my mind, I still think in terms of atheism as opposed to agnosticism (more specific meanings similar to theism as opposed to deism). However the less specific term is valid, and used by many who call themselves atheist. I don't have an issue with this. But do think it is a little ridiculous, when people demand only the one meaning, acting like the other isn't legitimate.
The important thing is that we are both both on the same page in a discussion. (which may at times require clarification).
Perhaps the more accurate and least contestable term would be godless. But really, the motivation behind all the fuss is the contention that theists alone have any burden of proof. The conceit of many here is that atheism is some kind of benign ignorance. In point of fact, most are incredulous, have reasons for being incredulous, and avoid defending the beliefs behind their incredulity. When their objections to the best explanation (Classical theism) are revealed as irrelevant or incoherent AND their multitude of alternative explanations are shown to be weak and inadequate, they run away like petulant children shouting, "Yeah, but you cannot PROVE God exists!"
I agree... I see equivocation with the term from a number of people as well. Those who want to make claims, but then when pressed, try to bring up the one definition and claim skepticism. The claim is not retracted, the position is not altered, but they act like the definition which doesn't apply to what they are saying absolves them of justification. And it is not like the definition is exclusive to an agnostic position. I also find that along with shouting their claim over and over, these people often think insulting or attacking the person or source is a valid argument as well. All you can do is point out the issues and move on.